Average Force Of Friction (attempted Question)

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The discussion revolves around determining the average force of friction acting on a block propelled by an elastic band, with the context of uniform acceleration. The original poster attempts to measure the force applied by the elastic band and is exploring various methods to calculate average values for distance, time, and force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster describes measuring the force of the elastic band and questions the validity of assuming the initial velocity is zero. They also inquire about the relationship between net force and acceleration. Other participants clarify the setup and suggest methods for measuring initial speed and calculating work done by the elastic force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and suggesting various measurement techniques. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of inquiry have been initiated.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the elastic band's behavior as it stretches and releases, as well as the setup involving a wooden block. There is mention of using a photogate for speed measurement and calculating work done through graphical methods.

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Homework Statement


find the average of a block being propelled propelled by an elastic band.
We know it is uniform acceleration.

my attempt on this problem
Measure the force applied of elastic band with a Newton scale. The more you strecth the farther the distance the block will travel after you let it go. In my case my Fa was 6N. i proposed this idea to my teacher but he said the as the elastic band destreches after you let it go the force become 6,5,4,3,2. I am wondering if this is a correct way of finding the Fa. Then i would perfrom three trials to find the average.To find the average i would perform trials 2 times and divide them by three to find the average of d,t,forceapplied. i would find the distance,and time and assume V1 is 0. Can i assume V1 is 0 since it is in rest? my teacher looked puzzled i and i sure v1 is not 0. so then using v1,d,t, i would find v2 when it reaches the final velocity. then i would find the Acceleration acting on the block by using v1,v2,d,t. then i would find force normal by entering this fn=Mag
which would be mass x acceleration acting on block x acceleration due to gravity. i don't know how to go about finding force of friction because i can use this equation. FF=uFn.
One more question
can i find Fnet=Ma since i am going to find acceleration. will finding Fnet help me out?
thanks. Any suggestions ar welcome
 
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I assume that you are shooting a block with the elastic so that it slides along a surface. The problem is then to determine the average frictional force that acts on the block during the release and sliding up to the point that it comes to rest?

Is the elastic initially stretched between two posts before it is pulled back with the block against it?
 
no a wooden block with a slight cut in it is used to grip the elastic and propell the other wooden block.
 
... which slides along a table top?

Do you have access to a photogate? That way you could measure the inital speed of the (free) block at the point of release.

Another way is to determine the work done by the elastic on the (free) block is to calculate the area under the restoring force vs displacement graph. This means that you have to note at which displacement mark you release the elastic to shoot the block (maybe a scale on the table).
 

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