Awesome cloud chamber track (video)

In summary, the speakers discuss an amazing track recorded in a cloud chamber at 1200ft above sea level. The track appears to curve and bounce, causing confusion as to what it could be. After further investigation, it is determined that the track was caused by a small piece of the glass dome chipping off and flying through the chamber. The speakers also mention using LED strips and a thorium welding rod in the setup.
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Ben123
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I recorded an amazing cloud chamber track tonight. It came from the direction of the sun, seemed like the angle was off slightly though. I was at 1200ft above sea level and it was 6 pm.
I will attach a picture of my setup and a video that is typical and then the video with the awesome track.
It was a simple cloud chamber on dry ice, with a balloon on top. It is lit internally with LED strips.
The awesome track appears to curve, it is a domed glass chamber though. The other tracks appear straight.
I had a thorium welding rod inside along with a piece of americium from a smoke detector.

What was that track!?

My setup:
IMG_20160326_174654173_zpsrrzq0y3a.jpg


typical tracks:

amazing track:

Ben
 
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A helical track? I have no idea how that could be.
 
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Stellarium says at that time the sun would have been at 17.5deg above the horizon. The track in the video appears to enter the chamber at an upward angle and arc in the chamber downward. The angle I was referring to was the upward entry angle being off relative to the position of the sun.

I have no idea what it was. It was much thicker and longer than a typical alpha particle or any cosmic ray that I've ever seen in my little cloud chamber.
I'm happy just to have caught it on tape!

Ben
 
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It almost appears to bounce when it gets to the far side of the chamber? Unless its a visual phenomena when it gets close to the LED light. I'm thinking maybe it was a paint flake or something flying off and it arcs that dramatically just from gravity? Seems more plausible than a massive particle that somehow curved.

Ben
 
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If I move my cloud chamber or the supercooled air has substantial movement, I can get even weirder patterns than that.

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Looking at various tracks, there is clearly spiral motion in the cloud chamber, which combined with the normal convective motion seen in cloud chambers, could impose some odd distortions of the tracks. There is no mention of whether you are using the typical electrical field to stretch out the tracks and make them more visible. I've heard the occasional thick tracks such as this blamed on energetic alphas or on protons. The number of ions looks too high to be typical alphas from radon decay, so I would assume it is a proton track, ultimately derived from a cosmic ray. In a museum class cloud chamber of 30 cm x 30 cm area, I've seen a track like this visible about once per hour at sea level.
 
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Wow, I forgot I posted this!

I eventually did figure out what the very large track was. It had to have been a small piece of the glass dome chipping off and flying through the chamber. There's a tiny piece missing directly on the bottom inside edge of the rim. It likely chipped while the glass was cooling. Internal stress perhaps.

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Ben123 said:
Wow, I forgot I posted this!

I eventually did figure out what the very large track was. It had to have been a small piece of the glass dome chipping off and flying through the chamber. There's a tiny piece missing directly on the bottom inside edge of the rim. It likely chipped while the glass was cooling. Internal stress perhaps.

Ben
Good bit of detective work there. A good resolution to the problem (probably).
 

What is a cloud chamber?

A cloud chamber is a scientific instrument used to visualize and study the paths of charged particles, such as cosmic rays, as they pass through a supersaturated vapor.

How does a cloud chamber work?

A cloud chamber works by creating a supersaturated vapor of alcohol or water vapor in a sealed container. When a charged particle passes through the chamber, it ionizes the vapor, causing condensation to form along its path. This creates a visible trail that can be captured by a camera.

Why is this cloud chamber track considered awesome?

This cloud chamber track is considered awesome because it captures the incredible and intricate paths of charged particles in a visually stunning way. It allows us to see the invisible world of subatomic particles and their interactions with matter.

What can we learn from the tracks in a cloud chamber?

Scientists can learn about the properties of subatomic particles, their energies, and their interactions with matter by studying the tracks in a cloud chamber. They can also use this information to better understand the universe and its origins.

How is a cloud chamber used in scientific research?

Cloud chambers are used in various fields of research, including particle physics, astrophysics, and nuclear physics. They provide valuable insights into the behavior of subatomic particles and help scientists to make new discoveries and advancements in these fields.

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