BA in math or MS in math: Which is the better path for my future career?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process regarding pursuing a Bachelor of Arts (BA) in Mathematics versus a Master of Science (MS) in Mathematics. Participants explore the implications of each educational path on future career opportunities, particularly in teaching and industry roles, while considering personal experiences and job market expectations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to transition into mathematics after a non-related degree and is considering whether to pursue a BA or directly an MS in math.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the admission requirements for the MS program and suggests considering job prospects and career plans.
  • There is a discussion about the job market, with one participant listing potential careers such as actuary, operations research analyst, math teacher, and computer programming, while expressing uncertainty about the desirability of math degrees in tech companies.
  • Concerns are raised about the perceived shortage of math teachers, with conflicting views on the actual job market for teaching positions at junior colleges.
  • Several participants share experiences regarding the requirement of transcripts for teaching and industry jobs, with some stating that many employers do request them, while others claim that industry jobs are less likely to ask for transcripts.
  • The original poster reflects on how having a BA could enhance their resume alongside an MS, while also considering the implications of having only an MS on perceived expertise.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of transcripts in job applications, with some asserting that they are commonly requested while others argue that many employers focus more on specific skills than on educational credentials. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best educational path and the actual demand for math teachers.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with job applications and the relevance of educational qualifications, indicating that the job market may differ based on location and specific fields. There are also uncertainties about the actual demand for math teachers and the perceived shortage in that profession.

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Hello every one,

I am 37+ year old guy who graduated years ago in a degree non related to math (BS in kinesiology) ...now I am getting pretty excited about getting involved in math. I genuinely enjoy doing math and want to learn more and more...admittingly I do experience frustration but my passion for math overpowers that frustration... At least so far...

I have been self teaching in precalculus (with youtube videos and dummies books).

I plan to go to junior college to take all the math classes I need to learn then transfer to the same university where I did my BS in kinesiology. However that university only allows students to do one bachelor's degree of a kind. Since I already did a BS and since most if not all science is BS, then I shot myself in the foot by doing the BS in kinesiology.

I can still get a BA in math...or i could also apply for the MS math program at that same university. so here is my question...

Should I do the BA in math and maybe apply for the MS after finishing the BA.

Or take only the necessary undergraduate math classes (without the BA) then apply directly for the MS?
 
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You need to determine the admission requirements of the MS program in math.

You should also consider the job prospects and your eventual career plans and hopes. An MS will open some teaching jobs, but most industry jobs will have a good look under the hood (transcripts, projects) to determine what you can really do and how good you are at it.
 
I already figured out what the requirements for the MS are. There is a minimum of 7 classes they require to demonstrate proficiency in math. No explicit mention of an undergraduate degree in math.

As for jobs, I have brainstormed a list that include but not limited to actuary, operation research analyst, math teacher, computer programming.

I would like to work in a silicon valley company. I hear people with math degrees/quantitative skills are desirable at Google, amazon, Tesla, etc...but I am not entirely sure if that is accurate or true.

I plan to complement my math skills with software skills like SQL, R, Python, C/C++...etc

Being a math teacher in a junior college would be a desirable job though I hear that the shortage of math teachers is a myth and that finding a job in that field is relatively difficult.

Do potential employers really ask to see a student's transcripts?
 
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Being a math teacher in a junior college would be a desirable job though I hear that the shortage of math teachers is a myth and that finding a job in that field is relatively difficult.

In most places, there is a real shortage of high school math teachers but not college teachers.

Cntr2 said:
Do potential employers really ask to see a student's transcripts?

All the teaching jobs I've applied for have required it if not on the initial application certainly before hiring me.

About 1/2 the industry jobs have wanted to see my transcripts.

Lots of folks lying on their resumes these days.

There are also a lot of people in the job markets with MS degrees in different fields from their BS degrees, since MS programs are of varying quality, hiring managers and committees want to be sure of the total skill set. Hiring the wrong person is a very expensive mistake.
 
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All the teaching jobs I've applied for have required it if not on the initial application certainly before hiring me.

About 1/2 the industry jobs have wanted to see my transcripts.

Lots of folks lying on their resumes these days.

There are also a lot of people in the job markets with MS degrees in different fields from their BS degrees, since MS programs are of varying quality, hiring managers and committees want to be sure of the total skill set. Hiring the wrong person is a very expensive mistake.

In my experience, there has not been a single industry job (i.e. non-academic jobs) I've applied to that have wanted to see my transcripts, certainly during the job application process. In general, most employers are more concerned about the specific skills said applicant may possess.
 
Cntr2 said:
Do potential employers really ask to see a student's transcripts?
Yes. I've only interviewed for two positions ever that did not require transcripts.
 
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Thanks for contributing everyone...

I am still undecided whether to get directly my MS Or do the BA then apply to the MS.

I think the deciding factor rests on whether my future potential employers will ask for my transcripts.

If they do, having the BA will prove profound education in math and the MS along with that BA will be phenomenonal for my resume.

An MS alone will somewhat say my math knowledge is relatively more specialized due to only having the MS.

What do you all think? ☺
 

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