Bad community college transcript, looking for grad school.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impact of a community college transcript on graduate school admissions, particularly for a Ph.D. program in physics. Participants explore factors influencing admissions decisions, including GPA, research experience, and other application components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the transition from a sub-3.0 GPA to a higher GPA, questioning how to achieve this and its implications for graduate school applications.
  • Another participant suggests that achieving a GPA above 3.5, especially in critical physics courses, along with research experience, would significantly enhance the applicant's prospects for graduate school.
  • Some participants argue that graduate admissions consider factors beyond transcripts, such as letters of recommendation, research experience, GRE scores, and the applicant's letter of intent.
  • There is a discussion about how different schools may weigh GPAs differently, with some focusing on recent or upper division courses while others consider cumulative GPA across all transcripts.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of performing well at SUNY Buffalo, suggesting that a strong performance there may mitigate concerns about the community college record.
  • Another participant raises the issue of how community college grades transfer to SUNY Buffalo and their impact on the overall GPA, noting that if grades are transferred as "T" grades, they may not affect the Buffalo GPA.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of courses at a four-year institution compared to community college, with a suggestion that the applicant may need to invest significant time and effort to succeed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views regarding the significance of the community college transcript, with some believing it will have a limited impact if the applicant performs well at SUNY Buffalo, while others emphasize the importance of achieving a higher GPA and the variability in how different schools assess applications.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the transfer of grades from community college to SUNY Buffalo and how this will affect the applicant's GPA. Additionally, the discussion highlights the variability in admissions criteria across different graduate programs.

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Hi
i studied for three years in a community college, i had a lot of withdraws(withdrew from one year and three withdraws the following year). Got a 2.995 gpa. I have a letter from my counselor explaining the reason behind the withdraws(they`re legitimate believe it or not).
I just got accepted into suny buffalo in physics. And I am looking to get into the top universities for a phd program, like the university of tokyo. So my question is how much impact will my terrible community college transcript have on my chances of getting into a good university if say i can get above 3.5 gpa and do some research?
Be as honest as possible(im not going to get hurt). Also if you have any suggestions for me please be as detailed as you want.
Is it realistic to think i have a good chance?
thank you
 
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I think if you end up with a GPA above 3.5 (especially a gpa closer to 4.0 in the critical classes - physics) and do some research then you will be looking great towards graduate school.
 
I would not worry to much about the CC transcript. Admissions to Ph.D. programs look at other things besides the transcripts such as letters of recommendations, research and work experience, GRE test scores and your letter of intent (that being a written letter by you on why you want to attend that particular Ph.D. program).
 
The major question is how do you expect to go from a sub 3.0 GPA to something greater?

Reference letters, GRE scores and letters of intent are factored in of course, but (i) if you can't get over at 3.0 most schools won't even assess your application and (ii) it's rare that these are all independent factors.

Assuming that you do get that GPA up, a lot will depend on the specifcs of the schools that you apply to. Some schools will weight your GPA towards the more recent or upper division classes. Other schools will look just at your cumulative GPA across every transcript you have. So you may want to pay attention to this when you begin the application process.
 
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Congratulations on being admitted to SUNY Buffalo. If you do well there, I doubt that your community college record will be considered much. While, it is true that admission to graduate programs wants transcripts from all schools attended, I think the graduate committee would consider th e strong program at Buffalo (they probably even know some researchers there) , over your first years in introductory courses in the community college.
It is most important that you do well at Buffalo. I know a few graduates (many years ago). This is a good opportunity. Best Wishes
 
You should find out if your grades from your CC transfer into Buffalo as "T" grades, or the actual letter grades you received from the class and count towards your Buffalo GPA. If they're transferred as "T" or some other letter they won't count towards your Buffalo GPA, and your Buffalo transcript is the main one grad schools will look at because it's where the bulk of your physics classes will be (all but the first 3 you took at CC).

The bigger problem here is that if you continue to get grades like B's and C's none of what I just said matters. I suspect the 2.995 was, like you say, due to personal hardships. I have no reason to think you would lie. I hope those hardships have passed, because you'll have to step it up and actually put in a lot of hours to get A's in your physics classes at a 4 year school. Chances are the classes are going to be a lot harder than your CC classes, and if you're weak in some material you're probably going to want to retake honors versions of the intro classes (it's what I'm doing right now for E&M). If you can put 15 a week into the physics and roughly that into your math courses, you should be fine. I just hope you're ready to make the changes to your life and bust your butt.
 

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