Solve Ballistic Pendulum Homework: Conservation of Energy & Momentum

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a ballistic pendulum where a bullet is fired into a wooden block attached to a rod, causing the pendulum to swing to a certain angle. The discussion centers around the application of conservation of energy and momentum principles to analyze the motion and energy transfer in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations related to the height change of the pendulum and question the assumptions made about the height 'h' in the energy conservation equation. There is an exploration of whether the center of mass should be considered in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the initial assumptions and calculations. Some have pointed out potential errors in the height calculation and are considering the implications of the pendulum's mass on the center of mass. There is a sense of uncertainty about the correct approach moving forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the pendulum's mass affects the height calculation, and there is a suggestion that the center of mass of the entire system may need to be taken into account, which adds complexity to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A 2.3 kg wood block hangs from the bottom of a 1.3 kg, 1.3 m long rod. The block and rod form a pendulum that swings on a frictionless pivot at the top end of the rod. A 12 g bullet is fired into the block, where it sticks, causing the pendulum to swing out to a 35 degrees.


Homework Equations


Conservation of Energy.
Conservation of Momentum

The Attempt at a Solution



(1/2)(m)(v^2) = mgh

Drawing a triangle, h is 1.3 * cos 35 = 1.06m

So (1/2)(v^2) = (9.8)(1.06)
v = 4.568 m/s

Conservation of momentum:

(mB)(vB) = (mB + mP)(v)
(.012)vB = (2.3+.012)(4.568)
vB = 10.561 / .012 = 880.21 m/s

Not sure where I went wrong.
 
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"h" has to be the amount by which the system's center of mass increased in height. It's not equal to 1.3*cos35 because the pendulum itself isn't massless.
 
Note: actually, h isn't equal to 1.3*cos35 even if the pendulum were massless.
 
h would have been L - Lcos35 if it were massless. That's my slip up.

But back to the question at hand, though, I'm lost now. Would I have to use the center of mass of the pendulum and the block? That sounds complicated.

Is there another way I could do it?
 

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