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Homework Help: Banked curve min/max velocities

  1. Oct 11, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A curve of radius 15 m is banked so that a 930 kg car traveling at 48.0 km/h can round it even if the road is so icy that the coefficient of static friction is approximately zero. You are commissioned to tell the local police the range of speeds at which a car can travel around this curve without skidding. Neglect the effects of air drag and rolling friction. If the coefficient of static friction between the road and the tires is 0.300, what is the range of speeds you tell them?

    2. Relevant equations

    Nsinø = (mv^2)/r
    N cos ø = mg

    3. The attempt at a solution

    Combining these and simplifying produces rg tan ø = v^2
    Solving for theta I get 50.38

    I then return to the equations, but instead add friction force

    mgtanø = (mv^2)/r + μ(mg/cosø) and mgtanø = (mv^2)/r - μ(mg/cosø)
    solving these for velocity, but this produces the wrong answer (I get 37.50 km/h and 56.58 km/h)

    Thanks in advance for the help!
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  3. Oct 11, 2009 #2


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    Welcome to PF, ndoc.
    It seems to me the situation is more complicated for the case with friction. I'm thinking of mg down and the CENTRIFUGAL force horizontal to my right. So the normal force is mg*cos(A) + mv^2/r*sin(A). Certainly it makes sense that as the car goes faster, it gets pressed harder against the banked road, increasing friction.
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