Baptism by fire? 2nd year of master's at polytechnique

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The discussion revolves around the experience of a participant who has been accepted into the second year of a master's program in high energy physics at Ecole Polytechnique in Paris. The focus is on the structure and intensity of the coursework, which includes advanced topics in physics and the participant's apprehensions regarding the workload and evaluation methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • The participant expresses concern about the heavy course load, which includes advanced topics such as supersymmetry, quantum field theory, and cosmology.
  • Some participants suggest that the rigorous curriculum may be a method of evaluating and ranking students at a prestigious institution.
  • There is a question regarding the evaluation method, with the participant noting that it will be based on oral presentations, which may alleviate some anxiety about failing.
  • Curiosity about the participant's undergraduate background is raised, with the participant confirming they studied at Université de Montréal in Canada.

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Participants express varying views on the implications of the intense coursework, with some seeing it as a standard practice at elite institutions while others question the rationale behind such a demanding schedule. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of this approach on student success.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the specific expectations of the courses and the implications of the evaluation method. The participant's apprehensions about the workload and potential for failure highlight the pressures associated with advanced academic programs.

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Students considering advanced degrees in physics, particularly in rigorous programs, may find this discussion relevant as it touches on course structure, evaluation methods, and the experience of transitioning to a demanding academic environment.

Kyleric
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I've been accepted in the M2 (2nd year of master's) program in high energy physics at Ecole Polytechnique, in Paris. I looked at the compulsory courses I'd have to take. Here they are:

-Beyond the standard model, supersymmetry and supergravity;
-The standard model - weak and strong interactions.
-Methods of statistical analysis and simulation, experiments and physics of detectors;
-Advanced quantum field theory and introduction to string theory;
-Astroparticles, astrophysics and cosmology.

Each of these courses will take place from september 2011 to the end of january 2012. They will each consist of 1h of lecture and 2h of tutorial per week.
I sent an email to a professor there and he confirmed to me that it was an "extremely loaded semester". That's almost an understatement.
Is that the "French way"? What's the big idea? To stick a funnel in my brain and cram as much material as possible in the least amount of time?
I'm very apprehensive and creeped out about this. I'll get more details when I'll talk to two professors at the end of july, but it might end up as bad as it looks.
 
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Sounds like you'll be getting your money's worth.
 
Kyleric said:
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Out of curiosity, where did you do your undergrad?
 
I think that because it's a really excellent university so it's probably their way of thinning the herd and ranking students. Is it a pass/fail course?
 
Thy Apathy said:
Out of curiosity, where did you do your undergrad?
I did it at Université de Montréal, in Canada.

streeters said:
I think that because it's a really excellent university so it's probably their way of thinning the herd and ranking students. Is it a pass/fail course?
Yes it's possible to fail. I sent another e-mail to a professor and apparently the evaluation in all these courses will be done on the basis of an oral presentation. That makes the ordeal somewhat less scary.
 

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