Basic Assumptions of Science: A Prioris?

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The discussion revolves around the basic "unproved" assumptions of science, questioning their nature and implications. Participants explore whether this inquiry falls under philosophy, particularly epistemology, and discuss the need for clearer examples and definitions to facilitate the conversation.

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  • One participant questions the broadness of the original inquiry and suggests that examples are needed to clarify the discussion.
  • Another participant argues that the inquiry into the 'a prioris' of science is inherently philosophical and cites notable philosophers like Kuhn, Popper, and Feyerabend to support this view.
  • There are suggestions for improving the clarity and development of philosophical questions, including defining key terms and justifying the relevance of the issues raised.
  • Concerns are expressed about the potential for confusion and misinterpretation if the original post lacks sufficient detail and context.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the inquiry is philosophical or how to properly frame the discussion. There is disagreement on the adequacy of the original question and the need for clearer examples.

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Participants highlight the importance of defining key terms and providing logical or empirical support for claims, indicating that the discussion may be hindered by ambiguity and lack of detail.

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What are the basic "unproved" assumptions of science?
 
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This isn't philosophy, moving to GD.

This question is also too broad. You will need to state examples that you are questioning.
 
Evo said:
This isn't philosophy, moving to GD.

This question is also too broad. You will need to state examples that you are questioning.

Isn't philosophy?! And exactly what would you categorize it as? An inquiry into the 'a prioris' of science is 100% a philosophical inquiry falling under the category of epistemology. In fact, it's one of the hottest philosophical topics being addressed in academia. Do names like Kuhn, Popper, and Feyerabend mean anything to you? They weren't exactly writing hikers' field manuals.

But perhaps you were right about my needing to provide examples. If I wanted to start a discussion about the philosophical underpinnings of science, I probably should have been more explicative.
 
deltapapazulu said:
Isn't philosophy?! And exactly what would you categorize it as? An inquiry into the 'a prioris' of science is 100% a philosophical inquiry falling under the category of epistemology. In fact, it's one of the hottest philosophical topics being addressed in academia. Do names like Kuhn, Popper, and Feyerabend mean anything to you? They weren't exactly writing hikers' field manuals.

But perhaps you were right about my needing to provide examples. If I wanted to start a discussion about the philosophical underpinnings of science, I probably should have been more explicative.
Your one and only sentence was

deltapapazulu said:
What are the basic "unproved" assumptions of science?

We have standards for what qualifies as an acceptable post for philosophy and that doesn't cut it.

I suggest you read the Philosophy Forum Guidelines to understand what is required.

A good rule of thumb is to place yourself in the shoes of your readers and ask whether a prospective post is clear enough and developed enough to be understood by them-- Does this make sense? Am I making a sufficiently strong argument for my claims? How likely is it that someone will be confused by, or misinterpret, what I have written? You should strive to make your posts intelligible, well supported, and unambiguous.

In general, one should attempt to flesh out questions and arguments in the philosophy forums adequately enough that readers will have a good understanding of the problem, the backdrop against which it resides, and the justification of one's perspective. This might include

* explicitly defining key terms;
* justifying why this is a valid issue or problem in the first place;
* explicitly stating starting premises or assumptions;
* providing logical or empirical support for such premises or assumptions;
* making subtle logical steps more explicit;
* summarizing previous arguments made on the topic and explaining how they are relevant to your argument;
* etc.

In particular, please make a concerted effort to adequately define key terms whose meaning might otherwise be ambiguous and to provide proper justification for any claims that might be contentious. Doing so will go a long way towards stimulating productive discussion, whereas failure to do so will inevitably lead to lots of confusion, wasted words, and effort, and ultimately to moderator intervention as outlined above.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=47294
 
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