MHB Basic Calculus II Integral Questions - Riemann Sums, Absolute Integrals, etc.

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The discussion revolves around solving various calculus problems involving Riemann sums, u-substitution, and the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC). Participants share their approaches, with one user detailing their u-substitution results and expressing uncertainty about their answers, including a displacement of -3.33m and a speed of 218/3. Another user confirms the correctness of the third question's answer and clarifies the need to split integrals at roots, suggesting that the integral should be divided into three parts based on the sign changes of the function. The conversation emphasizes collaboration in understanding complex calculus concepts and verifying solutions.
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Hey guys, I'd appreciate some help for this problem set I'm working on currently

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The u-substitution for the first one is somewhat tricky. I ended up getting 1/40(u)^5/2 - 2 (u) ^3/2 +C, which I'm not too sure about. I took u from radical 3+2x^4.

For the second question, I split the integral into two parts, one from 3 to 1, and the other from 1 to -2, and used a negative value for the latter, since x < 1 is negative. This gave me 20/3 as a final answer.

Moreover, for the third question, I used a trigonometric identity u substitution and got \pi^2 / 72.

For the last question (the word problem), I got -3.33m for displacement and took the absolute for velocity to get speed, which gave me 218/3 as the final answer.

Also, for these questions:
2014_07_14_369_be38da7c84555c6e2b50_2.jpg


I'm confused as to how these work. For instance, I'm assuming that the FTC must be used, where the formula used would be f(b)-f(a), correct?
If so, I got 4x^3 radical(2-x^4) -2 for the first one. The second one is 3x^2 (sin(x^3)) + sincosx * cosx.

Also for the last two, I got 3/5x^5/4 -2x + 3x^1/3 +c from multiplying the values in the bracket by themselves (expansion). Also, I got 2 for the final one, since sinx > 0 is positive, and sinx < 0 is negative, although I'm not too sure about that. Thanks in advance, guys. I really appreciate it.
 
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for the first one you can do:

$u=x^4$
$du=4x^3dx$
$dx=\frac{1}{4x^3}du$

$\int \ x^7 \sqrt{3+2u}*\frac{1}{4x^3}du$
$\int \ \frac{x^4 \sqrt{3+2u}}{4}du$
$\int \ \frac{u \sqrt{3+2u}}{4}du$
$\frac{1}{4} \int \ u \sqrt{3+2u}du$

$v=3+2u$
$dv=2du$
$du=\frac{1}{2}dv$

set the whole thing in terms of v and then plug 3+2u in for v and u=x^4. i suppose there might be another way to do it but that's the only way i can think of.

i got the same answer for the third one (b on the first attachment) using sin for the substitution.
 
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your part a for the word problem is correct but for part b:

$v(t)=(t-4)(t+2)$
$\int_{1}^{4} \ 8+2t-t^2 dt + \int_{4}^{6} \ t^2-2t-8 dt$
and that is equal to 98/3
 
the last two are correct as well, only i think you meant $\frac{3x^{5/3}}{5}-2x+3^{1/3}$
 
ineedhelpnow said:
the last two are correct as well, only i think you meant $\frac{3x^{5/3}}{5}-2x+3^{1/3}$

Thanks a ton, I really appreciate the help and prompt reply. I'll go through the last one again just to make sure.
 
no problem. i would try to work out the other ones also but i don't have time. i have to get ready for my own calc 2 test which is like in an hour. hopefully answering your question can work as practice for me :D
 
ardentmed said:
Hey guys, I'd appreciate some help for this problem set I'm working on currently

2014_07_14_369_be38da7c84555c6e2b50_1.jpg

The u-substitution for the first one is somewhat tricky. I ended up getting 1/40(u)^5/2 - 2 (u) ^3/2 +C, which I'm not too sure about. I took u from radical 3+2x^4.

For the second question, I split the integral into two parts, one from 3 to 1, and the other from 1 to -2, and used a negative value for the latter, since x < 1 is negative. This gave me 20/3 as a final answer.

Moreover, for the third question, I used a trigonometric identity u substitution and got \pi^2 / 72.

For the last question (the word problem), I got -3.33m for displacement and took the absolute for velocity to get speed, which gave me 218/3 as the final answer.

Also, for these questions:
2014_07_14_369_be38da7c84555c6e2b50_2.jpg


I'm confused as to how these work. For instance, I'm assuming that the FTC must be used, where the formula used would be f(b)-f(a), correct?
If so, I got 4x^3 radical(2-x^4) -2 for the first one. The second one is 3x^2 (sin(x^3)) + sincosx * cosx.

Also for the last two, I got 3/5x^5/4 -2x + 3x^1/3 +c from multiplying the values in the bracket by themselves (expansion). Also, I got 2 for the final one, since sinx > 0 is positive, and sinx < 0 is negative, although I'm not too sure about that. Thanks in advance, guys. I really appreciate it.

In the second question, splitting up your integral is the right approach. But what are the roots of $\displaystyle \begin{align*} x^2 - 1 \end{align*}$?

Your answer to the third question is correct.

In the fourth problem, are you given the position of the particle at any point in time?
 
ardentmed said:
Hey guys, I'd appreciate some help for this problem set I'm working on currently

2014_07_14_369_be38da7c84555c6e2b50_1.jpg

The u-substitution for the first one is somewhat tricky. I ended up getting 1/40(u)^5/2 - 2 (u) ^3/2 +C, which I'm not too sure about. I took u from radical 3+2x^4.

For the second question, I split the integral into two parts, one from 3 to 1, and the other from 1 to -2, and used a negative value for the latter, since x < 1 is negative. This gave me 20/3 as a final answer.

Moreover, for the third question, I used a trigonometric identity u substitution and got \pi^2 / 72.

For the last question (the word problem), I got -3.33m for displacement and took the absolute for velocity to get speed, which gave me 218/3 as the final answer.

Also, for these questions:
2014_07_14_369_be38da7c84555c6e2b50_2.jpg


I'm confused as to how these work. For instance, I'm assuming that the FTC must be used, where the formula used would be f(b)-f(a), correct?
If so, I got 4x^3 radical(2-x^4) -2 for the first one. The second one is 3x^2 (sin(x^3)) + sincosx * cosx.

Also for the last two, I got 3/5x^5/4 -2x + 3x^1/3 +c from multiplying the values in the bracket by themselves (expansion). Also, I got 2 for the final one, since sinx > 0 is positive, and sinx < 0 is negative, although I'm not too sure about that. Thanks in advance, guys. I really appreciate it.

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \int{ \left( \sqrt[3]{x} - \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x}} \right) ^2 \, \mathrm{d}x } &= \int{ \left[ \frac{ \left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 - 1}{\sqrt[3]{x}} \right] ^2 \, \mathrm{d}x } \\ &= \int{ \frac{ \left[ \left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 - 1 \right] ^2 }{ \left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 } \,\mathrm{d}x } \\ &= 3 \int{ \left[ \left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 - 1 \right] ^2 \, \frac{1}{3\left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 } \,\mathrm{d}x } \end{align*}$

Now notice that $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x} \left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) = \frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}x} \left( x^{\frac{1}{3}} \right) = \frac{1}{3}x^{-\frac{2}{3}} = \frac{1}{3 \left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 } \end{align*}$, so the substitution $\displaystyle \begin{align*} u = \sqrt[3]{x} \implies \mathrm{d}u = \frac{1}{3\left( \sqrt[3]{x} \right) ^2 } \,\mathrm{d}x \end{align*}$ is appropriate...
 
Prove It said:
In the second question, splitting up your integral is the right approach. But what are the roots of x2−1?

Your answer to the third question is correct.

In the fourth problem, are you given the position of the particle at any point in time?

Oh, I see. So because the roots are both +1 and -1, the integral, in actuality, is split up into four parts since both roots are part of the domain. Is that correct? So would it be positive from 3 to 1 and negative from 1 to -1, and then positive again from -1 to -2? That's what's confusing me at the moment.

Thanks again.
 
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ardentmed said:
Oh, I see. So because the roots are both +1 and -1, the integral, in actuality, is split up into four parts since both roots are part of the domain. Is that correct? So would it be positive from 3 to 1 and negative from 1 to -1, and then positive again from -1 to -2? That's what's confusing me at the moment.

Thanks again.

Yes that is correct (so really it's split into three parts, not four...)
 

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