Basic physics logic help - kinematic equations and forces

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving kinematic equations and forces, specifically related to an object dropped from a height of 160 meters. The participants explore how to determine the speed of the object upon impact and the time taken for the fall, while considering the effects of gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to identify the relevant variables and equations for the problem but expresses confusion about determining acceleration and final velocity. Some participants suggest that the acceleration due to gravity can be assumed to be 9.81 m/s², while others reflect on historical concepts of free-fall. There is also a discussion about the application of kinematic equations to find the final velocity and time taken.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided guidance on using the kinematic equations, and some have attempted calculations for both parts of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced by the original poster, particularly regarding understanding the problem's requirements. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and some participants have confirmed the correctness of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's educational background and the pace of the current physics class, which may contribute to their confusion. The discussion also highlights the importance of unit consistency in calculations.

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Homework Statement


A small object, of mass 0.02Kg is at the top of a tall structure 160m high, it is dropped from rest.

Ignoring air resistance..

1. Find the speed of the object as it hits the ground
2. find the time taken



Homework Equations


So far we have learned the equations of kinematic motion

v=u+at
s=1/2(u+v)t
2s=(2u+at)t
v^2=u^2+2as

and forces such as

F=ma
Ns=mv-mu



The Attempt at a Solution



I get and can do the math(I think) on this particular question I am a bit puzzled as to some of the phrases and what the variables would be and then what equations and resolving thereof to use.

The obvious ones are "s=160" "u=0" and "m=0.02". I am assuming that part 1 is asking for the final velocity (v) but can't figure out where to start.

If the acceleration was known then I could work out what the final velocity was, however how can I find the acceleration from just that?

Part 2 would be easy if I knew what either the acceleration or final velocity are.

Any help appreciated...I'm sure I'm just reading it wrong or something stupid like making it more complicated than it needs to be.
 
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If the tall structure is on planet Earth, then a = 9.81m/s2 (pointing downward). You do not need to determine this, it is a "given".
 
What did Galileo discover about things free-falling under gravity?
 
Thanks Lewando + ibix

I can't believe how I stupid I was, of course it is. Please forgive my ignorance I have not had any education outside of british GCSE system which was 7 years ago and have just been thrusted into a A-Level equivalent physics class and its going at a very fast pace.

Our tutur has given g to be 9.8 for this class, so on that basis... "u" could be found as below(if i am correct)

v^2=u^2+2as
v^2=0+(2x9.8x160)
v^2=3136
√3136=56

so part 1 is 56m/s ?
 
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Repair your units and you will be correct.
 
Part 2 would be the following then (if I am correct)

2s=(2u+at)t
320=(0+9.8xt)t
t^2=320/9.8
t^2=32.65
√32.65=5.71

t=5.71s?
 
lewando said:
Repair your units and you will be correct.

Thanks, I think I am getting the hang of it.

The math/algebra is not as hard as the logic bits for me. I am a little dyslexic so sometimes I can read and re-read the question time and time again and not get what its actually asking of me.
 
FaraDazed said:
Part 2 would be the following then (if I am correct)

2s=(2u+at)t
320=(0+9.8xt)t
t^2=320/9.8
t^2=32.65
√32.65=5.71

t=5.71s?

Yes. Or since you already determined v, you could use v=u+at. With u being 0, its a faster way.
 

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