Basic questions of complex number's geometry?

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The discussion revolves around complex numbers and their geometric interpretations. Participants are examining loci defined by equations involving complex numbers, their magnitudes, and relationships between them.

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  • Participants explore the locus of complex numbers defined by equations, questioning the completeness of solutions and the implications of different factors in the equations.
  • There is an attempt to simplify expressions involving magnitudes of complex numbers and to analyze the geometric representation of these expressions.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding specific calculations and seek clarification on the implications of certain values of k in the context of the locus.

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Several participants have provided feedback on the original poster's attempts, highlighting potential oversights and suggesting alternative approaches to the problems. There is an ongoing exploration of the geometric properties of the loci, with some participants questioning the interpretations of their findings.

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Participants are discussing the implications of specific values of k and the conditions under which certain equations hold true. There is mention of constraints related to the imaginary part of the complex numbers and how they relate to real values.

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Homework Statement



(z' represent conjugate of complex number z,i is iota =sqrt(-1))
(1)find the locus of z.
|z|2+4z'=0

(2)|z1|=1, |z2|=2, then find the value of |z1-z2|2+|z1+z2|2

(3)z=(k+3)+i[sqrt(3-k2)] for all real k. find locus of z

Homework Equations



|z|2=z.z'

The Attempt at a Solution



(1) |z|2+4z'= |z|2+4z'*z/z
|z|2{1+4/z}=0
it is possible iff z= -4. so it has one solution.

(2) I take z1= cos(a)+i sin(a) and z2=2{cos(b)+i*sin(b)}
after putting these values in the required equation i got 10.

(3) let z=x+iy
x=k+3; y=sqrt(3-k2)
x-3=k; y2=3-k2
squaring x and adding it to y2,
(x-3)2+y2=k2+3-k2
that's circle.

unfortunately all of my answers are incorrect.
I want to know why?
 
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For (1), you are missing one solution. You have two factors and the equation is true when either one is zero. [itex]z=-4[/itex] is the solution where the 2nd factor is zero, what is the solution when the 1st factor vanishes?

For (2), it would help to expand as

[itex]| z_1-z_2|^2 + | z_1+z_2|^2 = (z_1-z_2) (\bar{z}_1-\bar{z}_2)+ (z_1+z_2) (\bar{z}_1+\bar{z}_2),[/itex]

then simplify the resulting expression.

For (3), you made a mistake to try to compute (x-3)2+y2. (x-3)2 does not appear in |z|2. Instead, it might help to look at the real and imaginary parts independently as functions of k. Looking at some special points like [itex]k=0,\pm 3[/itex] also helps.
 
fzero said:
For (1), you are missing one solution. You have two factors and the equation is true when either one is zero. [itex]z=-4[/itex] is the solution where the 2nd factor is zero, what is the solution when the 1st factor vanishes?

For (2), it would help to expand as

[itex]| z_1-z_2|^2 + | z_1+z_2|^2 = (z_1-z_2) (\bar{z}_1-\bar{z}_2)+ (z_1+z_2) (\bar{z}_1+\bar{z}_2),[/itex]

then simplify the resulting expression.

For (3), you made a mistake to try to compute (x-3)2+y2. (x-3)2 does not appear in |z|2. Instead, it might help to look at the real and imaginary parts independently as functions of k. Looking at some special points like [itex]k=0,\pm 3[/itex] also helps.

(1) Oh it was y foolishness.

(2) even after opening the equation you place i got 2(|z1|2+|z2|2) =2(1+22)=10

(3)I did not understand third answer.

THANKS FOR REPLY first 2 answer really helps me.
In third; 3 and-3 lies on the circle but not satisfy the complex number. so i think it is part of circle for all those for which [itex]k<|\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}|[/itex]
 
For the third one, [itex]z= x+ iy= k+3+ (3- k^2)i[/itex].

x= k+ 3, [itex]y= \sqrt{3- k^2}[/itex]. Solve the first equation for k, the replace k in the second equation with that.
 
And what is the locus of z when 3-k2<0? You need to give the points for all real k values.

ehild
 
ehild said:
And what is the locus of z when 3-k2<0? You need to give the points for all real k values.

ehild

see this figure
this is circle(in real part)
but why it is different from this figure
 
I do not really understand your pictures. In case 3-k2<0 z is real. (The imaginary part is zero.)

ehild
 

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