Batteries, Resistance, Power, Potential, and Current

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a 9V battery with an internal resistance of 1.5 ohms and a 3 ohm load connected to it. Participants are exploring the current flow through the circuit and the potential difference across the battery's terminals when the load is connected.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Ohm's law and the relationship between the battery's internal resistance and the load resistance. There is confusion about why the current through the load is considered the same as the current through the battery. Questions are raised about the reasoning behind setting equations equal to each other and the implications of using different resistances in calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the relationships between current, voltage, and resistance in the circuit. Some have suggested drawing circuit diagrams to aid understanding, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the concepts of series and parallel circuits, as well as the implications of internal resistance in batteries. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles rather than just applying formulas.

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Homework Statement


You have a 9V battery with an internal resistance of 1.5 ohms. If a 3 ohms load is connected to the battery, how much current will flow through it? When the 3 ohms load is connected, what potential difference will an ideal voltmeter read across the battery's terminals?

Homework Equations


V=IR

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, for the first problem, I used the above equation for the battery and for the resistance load and set them equal to each other. So the equation for the battery from above is I=V/R, where V= 9V and R=1.5 ohms. The equation for the resistance load is V=IR, where R=3 ohms. Taking both equations, I got V/R=IR and solved for I, the current. The current came out to be 2 amps. What I don't understand from this problem is why I had to set those equations equal to each other to get the current for the resistance load. Why can't I do I=V/R, where V = 9V and R = 1.5 ohms. If I did that, is that the current through the battery itself? I don't get why the current for the resistance load is the same as for the battery.

For the second problem, I used V=IR again where I took the current from above, 2 A, and plugged it into that equation. V=(2A)(3ohms)=6 V. That is the potential difference an ideal voltmeter will read across the battery's terminals when the 3 ohms load is connected. I don't understand why I am using the 3 ohms load and its current to find the potential difference across a battery's terminals? I don't understand why the battery's own current and its own resistance, 1.5 ohms, was not used to solve this problem. Wouldn't the 6V be the potential difference across the resistance load itself?

I'm just having a hard time understanding the story behind the equations and what I did in these problems. Can someone please explain?
 
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NkaujHelp said:
Okay, for the first problem, I used the above equation for the battery and for the resistance load and set them equal to each other.
Can you be more specific about what you set equal to what and why? I suggest that you draw a circuit diagram first and study it before calculating anything.
 
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NkaujHelp said:

Homework Statement


You have a 9V battery with an internal resistance of 1.5 ohms. If a 3 ohms load is connected to the battery, how much current will flow through it? When the 3 ohms load is connected, what potential difference will an ideal voltmeter read across the battery's terminals?

Homework Equations


V=IR

The Attempt at a Solution

What I don't understand from this problem is why I had to set those equations equal to each other to get the current for the resistance load. Why can't I do I=V/R, where V = 9V and R = 1.5 ohms. If I did that, is that the current through the battery itself? I don't get why the current for the resistance load is the same as for the battery.

It would help you if you drew the circuit. Ask yourself ... are the components in series or parallel with each other? and does that mean the current through each is the same or different?
 
NkaujHelp said:
Why can't I do I=V/R, where V = 9V and R = 1.5 ohms. If I did that, is that the current through the battery itself? I don't get why the current for the resistance load is the same as for the battery.
If you short the battery terminals together, what would be the current?
 

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