Battery Problem (finding current w/ batteries in parallel)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving batteries in parallel and resistors, specifically focusing on finding the current flowing through a 200-ohm resistor. The circuit includes multiple voltage sources and resistors with different values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for multiple equations to solve for the unknown currents, with one suggesting the use of a junction equation and loop equations. There are attempts to simplify the circuit and concerns about drawing the circuit diagram correctly with varying battery voltages. Some participants express frustration with their attempts leading to trivial identities.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem with participants providing suggestions for using matrix methods to organize equations. Some have made progress in expressing currents in terms of a total current but are questioning the validity of their results. No consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the derived values.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of circuit analysis with multiple voltage sources and are addressing the challenge of formulating the correct loop equations. There is an emphasis on ensuring all necessary equations are accounted for in their analysis.

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Homework Statement


Find the current flowing through the 200ohm resistor
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E1=5v
E2=10v
E3=15v
r1=3ohms
r2=6ohms
r3=9ohms

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that I1+I2+I3=I
I can't seem to get a loop rule that will allow me to solve for I though.

I came up with the equivalent resistance in the three resistors equal to 1.6ohms.

I tried to draw a simplified circuit diagram, but i am not sure how to do that with different voltages on batteries in parallel.

thanks
 
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Equivalent resistance won't help. Youve got 4 unknowns and need 4 equations. there's enough information to use one junction equation and 3 loops. Make use of the inner loops, and use a matrix to avoid algebra mistakes whenever possible
 
turdferguson said:
Equivalent resistance won't help. Youve got 4 unknowns and need 4 equations. there's enough information to use one junction equation and 3 loops. Make use of the inner loops, and use a matrix to avoid algebra mistakes whenever possible

i tried that and i seem to just keep proving that I2=I2, I1=I1, etc...
 
http://www.bluebit.gr/matrix-calculator/linear_equations.aspx

Plug your equations into this matrix calculator to see if youre missing a necessary loop or if youre just hung up on how to reach the solution
 
I worked on the loop equations more and found I1, I2, and I3 in terms of I.

I then substituted those into the I1+I2+I3=I equation getting a current (I) of .041 A leading to a deltaV of 8.1V.

Does this sound right? The Current was .137A when connected in series and the deltaV of the 200 ohm resistor was 27.4V.

Thanks
 

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