BBC News: Manned Mars Misson for 2018

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of a proposed manned mission to Mars by the Inspiration Mars Foundation, led by Dennis Tito, set to begin in January 2018. Participants explore funding challenges, technical feasibility, and the risks associated with such a mission.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the mission's funding, suggesting that without significant financial backing, it is unlikely to occur.
  • Others highlight the technical challenges of a manned Mars mission, noting that it may be more complex and dangerous than previous missions, such as those to the Moon.
  • A few participants propose that the mission could appeal to older volunteers who are aware of the risks involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of private entities making ambitious claims regarding space missions, with some suggesting that such proposals often lack realistic planning.
  • Some participants use humor to express doubt about the mission's viability, referencing real estate offers as a metaphor for skepticism.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the likelihood of the mission occurring, with some expressing strong doubts about funding and feasibility, while others remain cautiously optimistic about the potential for private space exploration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the significant financial and logistical challenges involved in planning a manned mission to Mars, as well as the need for extensive preparation and technology development that may not be achievable by the proposed timeline.

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The group still has to raise funding for their mission.
This is a nice way to say "it will not happen".
Unless some miracle occurs.
 
phinds said:
If you really believe this is going to happen, I've got some terrific real estate in Florida that you might be interested in. :smile:

Ocean front property in Arizona for sale...
 
The group still has to raise funding for their mission.

Don't forget that in 1972 Tito founded Wilshire Associates, whcih now provides investment management services to funds totalling of the order of $1 trillion.

$1bn a year funding is only a 0.1% management fee away :smile:
 
Drakkith said:
Ocean front property in Arizona for sale...

Hey, buzz off ... this is my sucker, uh, oops ... "customer" :smile:
 
I find the article interesting for its science content and visionary nature.

I can't tell if it will be funded or not. 1 or 2 billion isn't that much anymore. I really think it comes down the technical feasibility of his plan.
 
Five years? Ummm. . . .
 
d3mm said:
1 or 2 billion isn't that much anymore.
Which is why anyone with an extra 1 or 2 billion should send it to me. It's not that much.
 
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I think the 1000 lb gorilla in the room we all want to avoid talking about here is that any trip to Mars by any country, private firm, or international effort is likely going to be a suicide mission. Maybe not so much a flyby but a 3 year deal with a landing is going to be tough. This isn't really at all comparable to going to the moon considering the logistical issues and the number of things that have to go perfectly right over a long period of time. I don't think that's going to change by 2018, 2028, or even 2038. So might as well do it in 2018 while we still have a somewhat naive sense of the danger and a pioneering spirit. That's how our species has always done it in the past.

I just think you get a relatively older couple to go who have lived a full life and are fully aware of what the situation is. Not a bad way to go out if you think about it, and I think you'd have plenty of volunteers. And who knows, they just might make it back.
 
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d3mm said:
I can't tell if it will be funded or not. 1 or 2 billion isn't that much anymore. I really think it comes down the technical feasibility of his plan.
The current budget of NASA is over $18 billion annually. If the technology to get to Mars in 5 years was developed to the point of readiness for 1 or 2 billion I'm pretty sure they would have proposed doing it

It seems to becoming more and more common for private companies and independent groups to make outlandish claims about possible imminent manned space missions.
 
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phinds said:
If you really believe this is going to happen, I've got some terrific real estate in Florida that you might be interested in. :smile:

Drakkith said:
Ocean front property in Arizona for sale...

How about a nice, slightly used bridge over the East River in New York City?
 
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Doubt it. If you are awaiting donations now, there is no possible way to do this mission. The amount of time and planning would take years to accomplish. This is a pipe-dream.
 
  • #14
Yet another private manned Mars mission? Ho hum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Ie7i6vRUM
 

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