Beads on a hoop that cause elevation

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The discussion centers on the physics problem involving two beads on a hoop and determining the mass ratio that causes the hoop to elevate. The key equation provided is T >= (M + 2m)g, where T is the tension, M is the mass of the hoop, and m is the mass of each bead. Participants suggest using conservation of energy to calculate the bead speed at various angles and emphasize the importance of finding the acceleration and reaction forces on the beads to solve the problem effectively.

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Homework Statement


There are two beads at the top of a hoop that is tied by a string. The beads start moving downward on the hoop on each side. M is the hoop's mass and m represents each bead's mass.
What is that mass ratio that will cause the hoop to elevate.

Homework Equations


T>= (M +2m)g

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to go about this question but I couldn't finish the equations.
I know that the momentum on the x-axis isn't relevant since the beads cancel each other out.
I'm not sure how to use the hoop as a constraint. I can find the difference in potential energy but I can't seem to connect it to the force - only to the momentum.
I would really appreciate the help.
 
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hi michelle! welcome to pf! :wink:
michelle15g said:
I'm not sure how to use the hoop as a constraint. I can find the difference in potential energy but I can't seem to connect it to the force - only to the momentum.

assume the hoop is fixed, and use conservation of energy to find the bead-speed at a general angle θ

(i expect you've already done that :wink:)

then find the acceleration of the beads,

then the reaction force on the beads …

what do you get? :smile:
 
Thank you very much. My problem was that I kept skipping to the bottom instead of finding the speed at every angle in which case the integral was irrelevant.
 

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