Bearing steel that can absorb shocks

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The discussion revolves around the search for bearing steel that can absorb shocks, particularly in the context of applications in steel rolling mills. Participants inquire about the composition and physical properties of such steel, as well as alternatives to improve bearing performance under shock conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for information on bearing steel that can absorb shocks, including its composition and physical properties like tensile strength and malleability.
  • Another participant clarifies whether the discussion is about the steel used in bearings.
  • It is suggested that cast iron may be better for dampening vibrations than bearing steel.
  • A participant expresses concern about the failure of bearings in a steel rolling mill due to human error, leading to clashes and breakage.
  • Questions are raised about where exactly the bearings are failing (inner race, outer race, cage) and what constitutes a failure in this context.
  • There is a discussion about the cost of high-quality bearings versus the cost of downtime and maintenance.
  • Participants inquire about potential accessories or methods to reduce shock in a cost-effective manner.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the specific nature of the failures and the role of bearings as vibration dampeners.
  • A suggestion is made to consult manufacturers for more direct assistance regarding bearing materials and solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of bearing steel versus cast iron for shock absorption. There is no consensus on the best approach to mitigate bearing failures, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding specific solutions or materials.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of bearing failures and the potential impact of human error, but lacks detailed definitions of failure modes and the specific conditions under which the bearings operate.

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does anybody know of bearing steel that can absorb shocks , and could you help me with its composition and its physical properties like tensile strength, specific gravity, malleability , etc

regds
 
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you talkin about the steel used in bearings?
 
Usually the best thing for dampening is cast iron. Please provide more information.
 
10 four on that Fred
 
yes i am talking abt steel used in bearings .

application is steel rolling mill , due to man error , bearings clash , bearings break ,,,,...jerk free bearings are dirt expensive ... so i wanted to ask all smarties ,in physics forum , to help me in (my thoughts processes)----some answer...
 
Where are the bearings failing? The inner race? Outer race? Cage?

Unfortunately, good quality bearings are usually expensive. They are just like any other cost though. You balance the cost of the bearings vs. down time and lost machine time for maintenance.
 
the inner ring is stationery, outer ring is in movement . or else are you aware of any other accessories that can be added to bearings to reduce shock (cheaper fashion)
regds
 
devsdear said:
the inner ring is stationery, outer ring is in movement . or else are you aware of any other accessories that can be added to bearings to reduce shock (cheaper fashion)
regds
Yes. That is how most bearings work however, that wasn't my question. I asked what exactly is failing with the bearings? What are you classifying as a failure? Bearings, by nature, are not meant as vibration dampeners. What is the "man error" you mentioned? Please be as specific as you can.
 
devsdear said:
yes i am talking abt steel used in bearings .

application is steel rolling mill , due to man error , bearings clash , bearings break ,,,,...jerk free bearings are dirt expensive ... so i wanted to ask all smarties ,in physics forum , to help me in (my thoughts processes)----some answer...

I like to go straight to the source. The manufacturers are generally very helpful in these situations.

http://www.skf.com/".

http://www.nsk.com/"
 
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