Beauty vs Brains: Which is More Important?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relative importance of physical beauty versus intelligence in partner selection. Participants explore societal perceptions, personal preferences, and the implications of valuing one trait over the other. The scope includes conceptual reflections on attraction, societal norms, and individual values.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that valuing physical appearance is often criticized, while valuing intelligence is more socially acceptable, raising questions about fairness in attraction criteria.
  • One participant argues that both beauty and brains can be superficial, depending on the context and the individual's qualities beyond those traits.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes humor as a primary quality in attraction, suggesting it may outweigh both beauty and intelligence.
  • Several participants question whether individuals have control over traits like intelligence or humor, and how that impacts the value assigned to these traits in attraction.
  • There is a discussion about societal norms influencing perceptions of attractiveness, with some questioning why it seems more acceptable to dismiss someone for a lack of intelligence than for a lack of beauty.
  • One participant posits that societal benefits may arise from intelligent individuals reproducing, hinting at a deeper societal value placed on intelligence over beauty.
  • Another participant reflects on the idea that initial attraction may often be based on appearance, but deeper connections may shift the focus to intelligence over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the value of beauty versus brains, with no clear consensus. Some emphasize the importance of humor and personal preference, while others challenge societal norms regarding attraction criteria.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that definitions of beauty and intelligence can vary widely, and the discussion reflects personal biases and societal influences that complicate the evaluation of these traits.

  • #61
Supposedly a woman asked G.B. Shaw to marry her with the proposition 'Think of the children we would have with your brains and my beauty', to which Shaw answered, 'but what if they have your brains and my beauty.'

Anyway, I note that almost everyone marries, the plain, the dull, the poor, etc. What do their spouses see in them? The reason I took out a license to fight was for the whole woman, not anyone part of her.
 
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  • #62
Making my life better.

As I recall, there is a magic formula somewhere, that works out to this: long term relationships tend to work out when both people in the relationship believe the benefits of the relationship outweigh the drawbacks of the relationship by a factor of about five to one.

So, really, what you should be looking for is people who can make your life better, and whose lives you can make better. I find myself much more attracted to sanity (minimizing the bad stuff) and the capacity to enjoy life (maximizing the goods stuff), than to looks or brains.

Naturally, I should point out that beauty or brains is a false dichotomy.

P.S. (A very geeky thought.) I'm now wondering if it's possible to calculate a theoretical relationship good/bad variance based on the 5 to 1 ratio and the assumption that periodic break-even is necessary to maintain the relationship.
 
  • #63
Basically my view on beauty vs. brains is this:

I have dated girls dumb as a box of rocks and hot as far as looks go, even for a young person.

I have also dated girls that were quite ugly, yet quite intelligent. Hmmmm...a bit better.

The current girl, of 10 yrs., I am with has only average looks, but is a classical musician and has an IQ beyond measurable limits. She is quite a handful and most people eventually find her quite irritating, but I wouldn't trade her for anything on this planet.

You have to find what works for you.

Jim
 
  • #64
jimmysnyder said:
Supposedly a woman asked G.B. Shaw to marry her with the proposition 'Think of the children we would have with your brains and my beauty', to which Shaw answered, 'but what if they have your brains and my beauty.'

Anyway, I note that almost everyone marries, the plain, the dull, the poor, etc. What do their spouses see in them? The reason I took out a license to fight was for the whole woman, not anyone part of her.
The woman in the exchange with GBShaw, may have been Sarah Bernhardt, an actress, who was 12 years his senior. She also had numerous affairs during her career, so the exchange is perhaps possible.
 
  • #65
I believe that, in most cases, the environment has a direct effect on what someone values. If one is around people who constantly make a fuss over looks, then that person, more than likely, will value looks over intelligence and vice versa.
 

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