Berkeley Physics - Electricity & Magnetism Vol II: Solutions & Units

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the book "Electricity and Magnetism, Vol. II" by Berkeley Physics, focusing on the availability of solutions and the use of units in the text. Participants explore the challenges of finding solutions, the preference for different unit systems, and alternative textbooks in the field of electricity and magnetism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there is no official solutions manual for the book, while others claim that solutions can often be found on university websites.
  • One participant mentions that the book uses cgs units instead of MKS units, expressing a preference for cgs due to aesthetic reasons in equations.
  • Several participants recommend Griffiths' E&M book as a better alternative, citing its clarity and suitability for self-study.
  • There are discussions about the rarity and high cost of solutions manuals, with one participant noting a $700 price tag for a new copy.
  • Participants share various links to resources and solutions, with some links being reported as non-functional or leading to different materials.
  • One participant expresses frustration over the lack of reprints or updates to the Berkeley texts, questioning the publishing decisions regarding these educational resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of solutions manuals, with some asserting they exist while others maintain they are difficult to find. There is also no agreement on the preference for unit systems, as opinions vary on the merits of cgs versus MKS units.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the difficulty in accessing solutions and the limitations of the resources available online. There are also mentions of the historical context of the texts and the challenges faced by students in obtaining them.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students of physics, particularly those studying electricity and magnetism, as well as educators seeking alternative resources and insights into the challenges of textbook availability.

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I wanted to do some physics over the break, electricity and magnatism to be exact. I have already taken the course so I am not going through the material for the first time, I have also take vector calculus. The book I wanted to buy was Electricity and Magnetism, Vol. II
by Berkeley Physics
I read that there are no solutions to this book, does anyone know if this is true?
Also, i read that it does not use the stantard units, is this true?
 
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The book does not have any set solutions manual. However, almost every rigorous intro E&M class uses this book so you can almost always find solutions on university websites. For example, a quick google search yields:

http://sprg.ssl.berkeley.edu/~bale/H7B/

There. You can actually now "take" the Honors Intro E&M course at Berkeley.

As for your units question, Purcell uses cgs units as opposed to MKS units. As a student who just took this course at first I didn't like this as I was familiar with MKS units however it soon became appearant that cgs units make your equations look much prettier; you do not have "fundamental" constants such as mew and epsilon floating around.
 
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I would take a look at Griffiths' E&M book as well. That book would have made my freshman year Purcell-based E&M class less painful.
 
Yes,in fact Griffiths' book on Intro E & M is much better written than his Intro QM course.I'll say to stick with Griffiths.It provides the proper training for graduate texts like J.D.Jackson.

Daniel.
 
Alem2000 said:
I wanted to do some physics over the break, electricity and magnatism to be exact. I have already taken the course so I am not going through the material for the first time, I have also take vector calculus. The book I wanted to buy was Electricity and Magnetism, Vol. II
by Berkeley Physics
I read that there are no solutions to this book, does anyone know if this is true?
Also, i read that it does not use the stantard units, is this true?

As a currently active physics student who has some skill tackling the library system, I can indeed tell you there exist solutions manuals to each book. The trouble is getting your hands on the available copies. Currently, I am in the process of pleading with my library staff to acquire the texts for me. Luckily, I am friends with the librarian in charge of inter-library loans, so I may in fact get a copy, although, I will probably have to pay to get it. These books are really rare. I saw a copy of the solutions manual on amazon.com in NEW condition going for $700 yesterday. I think it is still there. If I had the money, I'd get it, but being a poor student, I of course do not.

I'm working to get a copies of the text to look at and compare. The solutions are by the Nobel physicist himself. Each book's solutions manual is written by the physicist who wrote the text. From a purely historical and mathematical perspective, it is intriguing how these men went about solving their own problems.

The_Brain said:
The book does not have any set solutions manual. However, almost every rigorous intro E&M class uses this book so you can almost always find solutions on university websites. For example, a quick google search yields: http://sprg.ssl.berkeley.edu/~bale/H7B/

There. You can actually now "take" the Honors Intro E&M course at Berkeley.

As for your units question, Purcell uses cgs units as opposed to MKS units. As a student who just took this course at first I didn't like this as I was familiar with MKS units however it soon became appearant that cgs units make your equations look much prettier; you do not have "fundamental" constants such as mew and epsilon floating around.

This is an incorrect statement. As I previously indicated, they do exist, they are just next to impossible to find.

Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00070Z08U/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Well, it looks like someone actually paid the 700 beans for the text. Either way, they do exist. Check with your local library to see what can be done to get you a copy. While it's not "technically" the best solution--there is such thing as a photocopy machine--if all else fails. I really wish they would re-release these texts along with their solutions manuals; the Feynman lecture series has been continually in print and keeps getting new editions (they go back and edit and update the work); I don't see why the authors' estates and McGraw-Hill cannot do the same, or at least similarly. If they don't plan on publishing the texts, I cannot understand (besides some dark and unsatisfactory machinations) why they could not. They are still being used by university departments, are highly popular amongst many of the international and national theorists and is popular amongst independent learners--especially, to those in the honors programs. One of our physics faculty has the entire series in Russian, as he is a Russian physicist. He claims the series is the best physics texts he has every had the privilege of working with.

juvenal said:
I would take a look at Griffiths' E&M book as well. That book would have made my freshman year Purcell-based E&M class less painful.

It still boggles my mind that if these texts are still being used, why they aren't being re-released by a publisher.


dextercioby said:
Yes,in fact Griffiths' book on Intro E & M is much better written than his Intro QM course.I'll say to stick with Griffiths.It provides the proper training for graduate texts like J.D.Jackson.

Daniel.

I've read lengths about Jackson's text. Griffiths' is recommended as the best text to start with. It is very well written and a great way to get into the subject. It is very well suited for self-study (from what I read). Jackson's text is evil--no matter how you swing it. However, there is no text at present that is as thorough. A similar incidence occurs in optics. Why the the community doesn't have better texts is beyond me. It would seem Neil Postman was correct when he said we should just throw the lot of textbooks out the window. If only these people could remember that students actually have to make sense of these things. What a bother--indeed.
 
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The_Brain said:
http://sprg.ssl.berkeley.edu/~bale/H7B/

There. You can actually now "take" the Honors Intro E&M course at Berkeley.

Could you please verify that link? I get an error.
 
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brocks said:
Could you please verify that link? I get an error.

The link appears not to work. I wasn't able to find a similar website. I searched for H7B (it's Berkeley's honors course for E&M, but they are submitting problems out of Giancoli's text, not Percell's. There are some on MIT's opencourseware http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-022-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2002/assignments/ site, but these are not comprehensive solutions, only selected hints to the assigned problems. It might at least be of help to some.

Currently, I could not find the Berkeley site listed. I found http://www.ssl.berkeley.edu/H7B/ but it only has solutions for Giancoli.
 
I also found this page: http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/H7B/H7B.htm It has some of the solutions posted to it.

I hope this helps. Either way, there are solutions manuals available by the authors, but they are very hard to find. I hope this has been of help to all of you.

Now if only they would republish the book or make it available in an open-source format.
 
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Many thanks for your great links.
 

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