Best book on relativity for newbie ?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for books on relativity, specifically targeting newcomers to the subject. Participants explore various texts related to both special relativity (SR) and general relativity (GR), considering the mathematical prerequisites and the accessibility of the material.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express interest in Einstein's own book, "Relativity: General and Special," while questioning its relevance due to its age.
  • One participant recommends Schutz's book for its coverage of SR and GR but notes the necessity of studying differential geometry for a deeper understanding, suggesting Wald's text for that purpose.
  • Another participant mentions "It's About Time" by N. David Mermin as a good recommendation for SR.
  • There are mentions of newer texts, such as "The Geometry of Special Relativity," with uncertainty about the author, and a suggestion that it might be by Tevian Dray.
  • Participants discuss the potential confusion between different texts on geometry, specifically mentioning Naber's "Geometry of Minkowski Spacetime."
  • One participant shares their experience with "Relativity Demystified," indicating it covers the basics of GR but is not a differential geometry book.
  • Another participant recommends "Introduction to SR" by Wolfgang Rindler and mentions several advanced GR texts, including Carroll's "Spacetime and Geometry," Wald's "General Relativity," and Weinberg's "Gravitation and Cosmology," while noting that some may not be suitable for beginners.
  • Concerns are raised about Padmanabhan's book being full of typos, which may hinder its effectiveness for beginners.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best book for newcomers, with multiple competing views and recommendations presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some recommendations depend on the reader's mathematical background and familiarity with concepts such as differential geometry, which may not be suitable for all beginners. There is also a noted variability in the quality and accessibility of the suggested texts.

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basically I am looking for the book that einstein wrote himself 'relativity: general and special'

but there are soo many versions/editions of it, can u recommend me a specific one?

thanks.
 
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golu14 said:
basically I am looking for the book that einstein wrote himself 'relativity: general and special'
Why would you want to read something that's 100 years old?
 
The question in the title is very different from the question in the post.

I usually recommend the GR book by Schutz for its material on SR. It's also not a bad place to start learning about GR, but if you really want to learn GR, you will eventually have to study a text that doesn't try to hide the differential geometry (e.g. Wald), and you will also have to study differential geometry. I like the books by Lee for that. Unfortunately, Lee requires you to know a substantial amount of topology.

There are some books on SR that are supposed to require even less mathematical knowledge and maturity from its readers. The one that gets the most recommendations is Taylor & Wheeler.
 
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Bill_K said:
Why would you want to read something that's 100 years old?
Nostalgia? :biggrin:
 
For SR I would recommend It's About Time by N. David Mermin.
 
The Geometry of Special Relativity. I forget the author. It's very new.
 
TomServo said:
The Geometry of Special Relativity. I forget the author. It's very new.
Probably, Tevian Dray (http://people.oregonstate.edu/~drayt/ ).
There is also a new book on GR and on Differential Forms.
 
robphy said:
Probably, Tevian Dray (http://people.oregonstate.edu/~drayt/ ).

You wouldn't want a newbie to confuse this with the book by Naber (Geometry of Minkowski Spacetime). That would be a shock.

There is also a new book on GR and on Differential Forms.

Looks like it's not out yet:

https://www.amazon.com/Differential-Forms-Geometry-General-Relativity/dp/146651000&tag=pfamazon01-20

Looking for that I found this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/3642357970/?tag=pfamazon01-20

A more recent GR book that takes a "Physics first" approach similar to Hartle is the one by Ta-Pei Cheng.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0199573646/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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I bought "Relativity Demystified" which promises to lay down the basics of GR, or at least the math you use in it. It's not explicitly a differential geometry book, but I haven't read it yet. Too busy studying for the PGRE. :(
 
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TomServo said:
I bought "Relativity Demystified" which promises to lay down the basics of GR, or at least the math you use in it. It's not explicitly a differential geometry book, but I haven't read it yet. Too busy studying for the PGRE. :(

The book reads like a set of notes. There are many better books.
 
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For special relativity I like "Introduction to SR" by Wolfgang Rindler (Oxford Science)... uses the signature like particle physicists I fear but it explains things well... as for GR there are a lot of good books... Carroll's "Spacetime and Geometry" is a good book, also Wald's "Genrel Relativity" but it is advanced, or Weinberg's "Gravitation and Cosmology", even if it is quite old... it is good for GR but it is not so updated as for the Cosmology part... lot of others I don't know, they tell me Padmanabhan's "Gravitation" is also good, as it has also a small part about quantum fields in curved spacetime and gravity in higher and lower dimensions and as an emergent phenomenon
 
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Padmanabhan's book has a nice concept, but it's full of typos. I'd not recommend it for the beginner!
 

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