Best subject to take for Mechanical Engineering major?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice of a science elective for a Bachelor of Mechanical Systems degree, specifically comparing the benefits of taking Thermal and Classical Physics versus Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity. The focus is on how each subject may relate to a future career in mechanical or mechatronics engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Thermal and Classical Physics is likely to be more beneficial for a mechanical engineering major due to its practical applications in the field.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of Thermal and Classical Physics as foundational knowledge necessary for subsequent courses like Statics and Thermodynamics.
  • A different viewpoint states that Quantum Mechanics may be irrelevant for mechanical engineering unless one is specifically pursuing a career in nanotechnology.
  • Some participants express a consensus that Thermal and Classical Physics is the more relevant choice for mechanical engineering, citing its applicability and foundational nature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Thermal and Classical Physics is more relevant for mechanical engineering, while there is disagreement regarding the utility of Quantum Mechanics, with some asserting it has little to no application in the field.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention prerequisites and foundational courses that may influence the decision, indicating that the relevance of each subject may depend on the specific curriculum of the mechanical engineering program.

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Hello all,

I'm currently entering my second year of a Bachelor of Mechanical Systems degree, hoping to move into Masters of Mechanical or Mechatronics engineering.

I've got to decide on a science elective and I've got it down to two:

Thermal and Classical Physics:
This subject extends knowledge of fundamental thermal physics principles and introduces the powerful and elegant Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formulations of classical mechanics. Topics from thermal physics include thermal equilibrium, ideal gas and kinetic theory, equipartition of energy, heat and work, heat capacity, latent heat, enthalpy, thermodynamic processes; thermal systems and statistics, interacting systems, statistics of large systems, entropy, temperature and heat, pressure, chemical potential; heat engines, Carnot cycle, refrigerators, throttling process; Helmholtz and Gibbs Free energies, and phase transformations. In classical physics, topics will include elementary principles (Newton’s laws, momentum and energy conservation, mechanics of systems of particles), Lagrange’s equations (constraints and generalized coordinates, Lagrange’s equations, velocity dependent and dissipative forces, applications, symmetries and conservation laws, stability and oscillations) and Hamilton’s principle (calculus of variation, applications, Hamilton’s principle, Legendre transformations)

or

Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity
This subject introduces students to two key concepts in physics: quantum mechanics and Einstein’s theory of special relativity. Quantum mechanics topics include the quantum theory of light, the particle nature of matter, matter waves, quantum mechanics in one dimension and tunneling phenomena. Special relativity topics will include the foundations of special relativity, spacetime invariance, simultaneity, and Minkowski diagrams, relativistic kinematics, the Doppler effect, relativistic dynamics, and nuclear reactions.​

My question is, which subject would be most beneficial for my major? I'm guessing the Thermal/Classical Physics will be beneficial for a mech engineering major, but you hear a lot these days of nanotech and such things, and I'm thinking that quantum mech could be of some use or other.

Any help greatly appreciated. I know I posted this in the Academic forum, but as yet I've gotten no reply, and with semester fast approaching, I need help urgently.
 
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Unless you are sure you are going into nanotech or have an unquenchable thirst for QM - definitely take the thermal and classical option. It is very hard to find practical applications of quantum mechanics in mechanical engineering (afaik) whereas the applications of the other course are extremely plentiful.
 
I second Thermal and Classical Physics ... by far.

In most programs, a 1 semester of basic physics would be required as a prereq before you take Statics and also before you take Thermodynamics (which is a whole 1 semester class on its own). I almost can't see how the first class you mentioned wouldn't be required as a rereq.

Im sure they take even more courses that build upon Thermo after that... I had to take Thermo as a Civil because its on the EI exam and also its likely to do with the ABET accreditation.
 
Go for thermodynamics and Mechanics... (might be a little repetitive of Mechanics).
 
QM will be totally useless for ME, so the other is your only bet. It may prove to be less than really useful, but it is your only hope at this point, I'd say.
 

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