Binding Energy of the Deuteron

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The discussion focuses on the binding energy of the deuteron, specifically its value of 2.22 MeV, and the force between the proton and neutron at a distance of approximately 2.13 x 10^-15 m. It establishes that the classical strong nuclear force can be calculated using the formula F_s = \hbar c / r_n^2, yielding a force of approximately 6968.265 N. Additionally, the classical binding energy force is derived as F_b = E_b / r_n, resulting in a force of 167.721 N. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between binding energy and nuclear forces in a three-dimensional context.

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It seems that for the case of the Electron in the Ground State of the Hydrogen Atom that when the value of the Binding Energy (13.6 eV), as calculated by Bohr, is divided by the separation distance (the Bohr Radius = 5.29 x 10^-11 m) we only get half of the Coulomb Force (4.11 x 10^-8 N) which exists between the Proton and the Electron (8.22 x 10^-8 N). Am I missing a factor of 2 when dividing the Binding Energy by the radius?
Is there a relationship between the value of the Binding Energy of the Deuteron (2.22 MeV) and the actual value of the Force that exists between the Proton and the Neutron at a distance of approximately 2.13 x 10^-15 m ? What is an approximate value of this Force between the Nucleons(in Newtons)? Thanks.
 
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Am I missing a factor of 2 when dividing the Binding Energy by the radius?


Affirmative.

This confusion is in the fact that the Bohr Hydrogen model is not a 2 dimensional static model, but instead is a 3 dimensional electrostatic model.

Total Electron Energy:
E = K + U = \frac{mv^2}{2} - k \frac{q^2}{r}

Newtons Second Law:
F_q = F_c
Fq - Coulomb's Force
Fc - Centripetal Force
Fq = Fc = 8.238*10^-8 N

k \frac{q^2}{r^2} = \frac{mv^2}{r}

Electron Kinetic Energy integral:
K = \int \frac{mv^2}{2} = k \frac{q^2}{2r}

The Coulomb potential half-integral results from the integral of the Electron average kinetic energy, and therefore is non-relativistic.

Total Electron Energy:
E_h = \int k \frac{q^2}{2r_h} - k \frac{q^2}{r_h} = k \frac{q^2}{r_h} \left( \frac{1}{2} - 1 \right) = k \frac{q^2}{r_h} \left( -\frac{1}{2} \right)

Total Electron Energy:
E_h = -k \frac{q^2}{2r_h}


Is there a relationship between the value of the Binding Energy of the Deuteron (2.22 MeV) and the actual value of the Force that exists between the Proton and the Neutron at a distance of approximately 2.13 x 10^-15 m ?
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The classical strong nuclear force is:
F_s = \frac{ \hbar c}{r_n^2}

Given:
rn = 2.13 x 10^-15 m
Then:
Fs = 6968.265 N

Classical Deuterium Binding Energy: (ev)
E_b = \frac{F_s \Delta r_b}{2q}
rb = 1.603*10^-16 m - binding radius

Classical Deuterium Binding Energy: (ev)
E_b = \frac{\hbar c \Delta r_b}{2qr_n^2}

Classical Binding Energy Force:
F_b = \frac{E_b}{r_n} = \frac{\hbar c \Delta r_b}{2r_n^2}
Fb = 167.721 N

For more predictive results, reference the semi-classical binding energy formula, however note that the mass defect formula is currently still more accurate for this result.

 
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