Binomial approximation using Mellin transform

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Mellin transform to derive the binomial approximation for expressions of the form (1+\alpha x)^{\gamma} and (1-\alpha x)^{\gamma}. Participants explore the challenges encountered when applying the transform to the second case, particularly issues related to complex integrands and poles in the integral limits.

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  • One participant describes the derivation of the binomial approximation for (1+\alpha x)^{\gamma} using the Mellin transform, noting that the method fails for (1-\alpha x)^{\gamma} due to complex integrands.
  • Another participant points out the presence of a pole at x=\frac{1}{\alpha} in the forward transform and suggests using the Heaviside function to rearrange the integral limits.
  • There is a question about whether the method is only applicable when \gamma>0, as raised by a participant.
  • Participants discuss the potential for the Mellin transform to have an inverse for all values and whether this can be linked to the binomial power series.
  • One participant mentions examining the ascending and descending series to conclude the existence of the inverse Mellin transform for certain conditions.
  • Another participant proposes using a Taylor series expansion comparison to prove that the inversion series corresponds to the original expression.
  • A participant offers to share partial notes on an elementary solution that does not rely on Mellin transforms, indicating that the Mellin process may follow a similar outline.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the Mellin transform method, particularly regarding the conditions under which it can be used. There is no consensus on how to resolve the issues raised, and the discussion remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations related to the conditions of \gamma and the behavior of the integrands, as well as the need for careful handling of poles and integral limits. The discussion highlights the complexity of extending results beyond specific cases.

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I know how to derive the binomial approximation for (1+\alpha x)^{\gamma} using a Mellin transform, but for (1-\alpha x)^{\gamma} the method appears to fail because I can't take x to infinity.

Here is the basics of the method. Take the Mellin transform of (1+\alpha x)^{\gamma}:

M(p) = \int^\infty_0 (1+\alpha x)^{-\gamma}x^{p-1}dx

Do some change of variables trickery:

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> M(p) &amp;= \alpha^{-p}\int^1_0(1-z)^{\gamma-p-1}z^{p-1} dz\\<br /> &amp;=\alpha^{-p}\frac{\Gamma(\gamma-p)\Gamma(p)}{\Gamma(\gamma)}<br /> \end{align*}<br />

Use the inverse Mellin transform and close the integral to the left:

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> (1+\alpha x)^{-\gamma}&amp;=\frac{1}{2\pi i}\int^{c+i\infty}_{c-i\infty}(x\alpha)^{-p}\frac{\Gamma(\gamma-p)\Gamma(p)}{\Gamma(\gamma)}dp\\<br /> &amp;=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(\alpha x)^n \frac{(-1)^n}{n!}\frac{\Gamma(\gamma+n)}{\Gamma(\gamma)}<br /> \end{align*}<br />

But taking the Mellin transform of (1-\alpha x)^{\gamma} fails immediately:

M(p) = \int^\infty_0 (1-\alpha x)^{-\gamma}x^{p-1}dx

The integrand will become complex quite quickly. I've tried playing around with changes of variables, but I can't figure it out.

Can this method be adapted for this purpose?
 
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Second case: In the forward transform you will have a pole when
<br /> x=\frac{1}{\alpha}<br />.
You have to rearrange the integral limits to avoid this; the typical way is to use the Heavyside function
<br /> H(1-x \alpha )<br />

First case: You need to condition your inversion transform.
Closing to the left when
<br /> x\alpha &lt;1<br /> and to the right when
<br /> x \alpha &gt;1<br /> .
You changed the sign of \gamma midway; using the Mellin xform expression you need \gamma&gt;0

Ray
 
using the Mellin xform expression you need \gamma&gt;0

Does this mean this method is only applicable to expressions of the form (1+\alpha x)^{-\gamma} with \gamma&gt;0?

Second case: In the forward transform you will have a pole when x=\frac{1}{\alpha}.
You have to rearrange the integral limits to avoid this; the typical way is to use the Heavyside function H(1-x\alpha)

So I would effectively end up with this?

M\{H(1-x\alpha)(1-\alpha x)^{-\gamma}\}(p)=\int\limits_0^{1/\alpha}(1-\alpha x)^{-\gamma}x^{p-1}dx

How would I proceed from here?
 
bdforbes said:
Does this mean this method is only applicable to expressions of the form (1+\alpha x)^{-\gamma} with \gamma&gt;0?



So I would effectively end up with this?

M\{H(1-x\alpha)(1-\alpha x)^{-\gamma}\}(p)=\int\limits_0^{1/\alpha}(1-\alpha x)^{-\gamma}x^{p-1}dx

How would I proceed from here?

Good question. Up till now I was just following along some presentations in some books. Extending the results requires some thought. Life is nothing but problems :smile:; actually they point to some areas that I feel I have to tip-toe through, but that I should have clearly in mind.
I am not an expert. What are your goals? At this point I would examine your xform result; it is a form of the Beta function. Now looking at the xform, it is meromorphic. It would seem that this form could be proved to have an inverse transform for all values . If that is so, then can we identify the associated series with the binomial power? For some values of the vertical imaginary integration axis some extra terms might come and go; but these are usually just dropping or adding terms to the underlying function.
I can try to be explicit later. I would appreciate your thoughts.

Ray
 
rrogers said:
At this point I would examine your xform result; it is a form of the Beta function. Now looking at the xform, it is meromorphic. It would seem that this form could be proved to have an inverse transform for all values . If that is so, then can we identify the associated series with the binomial power? For some values of the vertical imaginary integration axis some extra terms might come and go; but these are usually just dropping or adding terms to the underlying function.

I had considered that earlier. We arrive at the result which we know is correct for all values of x, yet the derivation only applies to certain values of x. It would be great if we could make an argument at this stage to extend to all values of x.
 
Examining the ascending |\beta x|&lt;1 and descending series for |\beta x|&gt;1 leads to the conclusion that the inverse Mellin transform exists and is reasonable for both \lambda &lt;0 and \beta &lt;0 .

The remaining problem is to prove that the inversion series corresponds to your original expression in these domains. One way is to use the convolution property; but that looks to be complicated. Another way is to use a Taylor series expansion comparison at zero;between the inversion and the original formula. Or using the "Direct Mapping" theorem; that looks to be the best way.
That's actually a hidden form of Taylor series. I have to check something though.
BTW: If you have the Taylor series the original problem would be solved:)

Ray
 
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Sorry about the last post. I didn't see yours. I will think about what you said.

Ray
 
I have examined the underlying process and have an elementary solution; i.e. without Mellin xforms.
The Mellin process should follow the same outline; two cases for the power being >,< 0. In the Mellin case I think it is educational as I think it talks to the Inverse Mellin xform of the Analytic continuation of the Beta function.
If your interested in partial notes I can email a file (it's a little long and windy). Otherwise wait until I finish writing things up.
There are minor restrictions on x, -1<x ; but scaling can deal with that if I don't find a more elegant solution.

Ray
 
Thanks Ray, I'll be interested to see the results. I'm quite busy at the moment, so I'm happy to wait until you've had the chance to write it up.
 

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