Binomial Expansion: Solve for L=Hbar*(l+1/2)

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The discussion centers on the binomial expansion approximation in quantum mechanics, specifically the equation L = Hbar * √(l*(l+1)) and its comparison to L = Hbar * (l + 1/2). The user attempted to derive the latter from the former using the approximation (1+z)^n = 1 + nz but found discrepancies upon substitution. The community clarified that the two expressions are not equivalent, providing counterexamples with specific values of l. The user acknowledged the mistake and sought further explanation on the non-equivalence of the equations.

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Hey all. I have posted a thread regarding this question a while back. I did get an answer and everything. (Here is my old post along with the original question if you are interested: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=592885).

So i tried doing that problem again like this:

Given:
L = Hbar * √(l*(l+1))
Binomial expansion approximation: (1+z)^n = 1 + nz

My try:
L = Hbar * √l * (1 + l/2)

If you opened the link of my previous post you will see that I must obtain L = Hbar * (l + 1/2). As you can see my just calculated expression is not the same as the previous expression, however plugging in a certain value of l, one obtains the same value for either expression which leads me to believe the two expressions are equivalent. So my question is: How would I play with my current equation to obtain the equation from the previous post. Yes, this is completely an algebra question. Thank you.
 
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I'm going to call your lower-case l capital L because l looks like 1.

Hbar * √(L*(L+1)) is not equal to Hbar * √L * (1 + L/2), if that is what you are claiming? To see this, just plug in L = 1. Then the first expression becomes hbar*sqrt(2) while the second becomes hbar * (3/2).

Nor is Hbar * √L * (1 + L/2) equal to Hbar * (L + 1/2), if that is what you are claiming. Just plug in L = 2; then the first expression is hbar * sqrt(2) * 2 while the second is hbar * 5/2.
 
Oh, i made a stupid mistake i guess. Thank you for your correction. Can you explain why the two equations are not equivalent? I got both of them from the same equation but they are not equal.
 

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