Biodiversity - Which is the most diverse animal or plant?

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The discussion revolves around the question of which living organism, either animal or plant, exhibits the most diversity. Participants explore various interpretations of "diversity," including morphological, genetic, and behavioral aspects, while also debating the definitions of plants and animals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how one organism can be considered more diverse than another, prompting a discussion on the measures of diversity.
  • There is mention of Simpson's diversity index as a mathematical approach to quantify diversity in ecosystems.
  • One participant suggests that Canis domesticus (domestic dogs) may exhibit the most variation in appearance.
  • Another participant highlights the diverse appearance of diatoms as a potential contender for diversity.
  • Some participants express that humans appear quite similar compared to other species, despite being able to recognize each other well.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between plants and animals, with one participant suggesting that plants grow from the soil while animals procreate from them.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the original question, with some participants pointing out ambiguities in phrasing and punctuation.
  • References are made to the behavior of domestic cats and their recognition of humans, adding a personal anecdote to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which organism is the most diverse, as multiple competing views and interpretations of diversity remain throughout the discussion.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of "plant" and "animal," as well as the criteria for measuring diversity. The discussion includes various assumptions and lacks a clear resolution on the topic.

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Which is the most diverse animal or plant, if one classes any thing living that is not a plant an animal.
 
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How can one organism be more diverse than another?
 
Which measure of diversity?

wolram said:
Which is the most diverse animal or plant, if one classes any thing living that is not a plant an animal.

Come again? Are you restricting competitors to "plants and animals", or excluding "plants and animals"? (Define plant, animal.) And do you mean morphological diversity? Genetic diversity? Behavioral diversity?

In ecology and systematics, "diversity" usually refers to a more or less vaguely motivated quantity which alleges to compare "diversity" of ecosystems or genomes in a population of breeding organisms. One of the simplest measures of "diversity" of an ecosystem was proposed by George Gaylord Simpson:
<br /> D = 1 - \sum_{j=1}^n p_j^2, \; \rm{where} \; \sum_{j=1}^n p_j = 1 \; \rm{and} \;<br /> 0 \leq p_j \leq 1, \; {\rm for} \; 1 \leq j \leq n<br />
See http://www.tiem.utk.edu/~mbeals/simpsonDI.html from M. Bealls (Institute for Environmental Modeling, University of Kentucky), which uses a different and nonstandard form of Simpson's diversity index, but has the virtue of giving some data you can play with.
 
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If i understand the question correctly, it seems that you are looking for the species with the most variation in appearance. my guess would be Canis domesticus
 
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Andre said:
If i understand the question correctly, it seems that you are looking for the species with the most variation in appearance. my guess would be Canis domesticus

forsooth!

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http://s.yottamusic.com/i/akGc.2Vs7 EDIT: you know, now that this thread made me think about it... humans all look ridiculously similar. I mean, take away haircuts, makeup, etc.. and I'd say, as far as geometric variety goes, we're quite monotonous and boring when compared to other species.

I think it's fascinating that we can tell each other apart so well, considering how freakishly similar our faces are.
 
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Diatoms are a class (Diatomacea) in the Phylum Chrysophyta of the Kingdom Protista.
Another single species candidate could be Poecillia reticulata, (Peters 1859)

humans all look ridiculously similar

How does a cat recognise a person? When I used to come home after work, I would be very silent. Eventually the cat, who regretfully past away last year, would stop monitoring the Poecillia reticulata's and would stare at me, wondering who I might be. That is, until I said something, then immediate the spark of recognition and an affectionate greeting ceremony would follow.
 
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Life has split two ways, plant and animal, one grows from the soil (environment) the animal lives from the other and procreates, that is the best distinction i can give.
 
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So did you mean to ask "which is the most diverse animal or plant?" or "which is the more diverse, animal or plant?"

Behold the power of punctuation, among other things... :smile:
 
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out of whack said:
So did you mean to ask "which is the most diverse animal or plant?" or "which is the more diverse, animal or plant?"

Behold the power of punctuation, among other things... :smile:


READ THE FIRST POST
 
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Andre said:
Diatoms are a class (Diatomacea) in the Phylum Chrysophyta of the Kingdom Protista.
Another single species candidate could be Poecillia reticulata, (Peters 1859)

Wolfram never specified "single species", in fact his statement of the challenge is not even self-consistent.

[EDIT: :smile: one guppy does not belong with the others!]

Andre said:
How does a cat recognise a person? When I used to come home after work, I would be very silent. Eventually the cat, who regretfully passed[/red] away last year, would stop monitoring the Poecillia reticulata's and would stare at me, wondering who I might be. That is, until I said something, then immediate the spark of recognition and an affectionate greeting ceremony would follow.

Have you read Desmond Morris's book on the behavior of the "domestic" cat?
 
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moe darklight said:
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EDIT: you know, now that this thread made me think about it... humans all look ridiculously similar. I mean, take away haircuts, makeup, etc.. and I'd say, as far as geometric variety goes, we're quite monotonous and boring when compared to other species.

Overweight people look quite different naked!
 

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