Black Hole Collisions: What Happens?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of black hole collisions, specifically what occurs when two black holes come into contact. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding the behavior of singularities, the concept of coalescence, and the implications of event horizons. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects of black holes and their interactions, with a focus on gravitational dynamics and the properties of singularities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that black holes act like normal massive bodies and orbit each other until they are in close contact.
  • There is a question about whether coalescing singularities results in only one singularity, with some expressing uncertainty about the permanence of singularities.
  • One participant argues that if two singularities coalesce, it raises the question of how one singularity can lose its individuality without being destroyed.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that black holes cannot be destroyed, introducing the concept of Hawking radiation as a means of black hole evaporation.
  • Some participants clarify that when two black holes collide, they merge into a larger black hole, but the mechanics of this process are debated.
  • There is a discussion about whether one black hole absorbs the other or if both lose their individual characteristics to form a new singularity.
  • One participant suggests that the misunderstanding may stem from conflating the concepts of event horizons and singularities, emphasizing that matter can increase a black hole's mass.
  • A later reply questions the implications of event horizon expansion and its relation to the gravitational influence of black holes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of black hole collisions and the behavior of singularities. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing interpretations of how coalescence occurs and the implications of event horizons.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the definitions of singularities and event horizons, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts. The discussion also highlights assumptions about the permanence of singularities and the mechanics of black hole interactions that are not universally agreed upon.

  • #31
pzona said:
DaveC-
Thanks for the response. I have another question regarding the gravitational field of the black hole. If the mass increases (say, from merging with another black hole), doesn't that increase the strength of the gravitational field as a whole, relative to the distance from the black hole? For instance, if a star was x distance from the black hole, and the gravitational field was some arbitrarily small measure of force from overcoming the star's inertia and "sucking it in," and the BH's mass increased, wouldn't this mean that the gravitational strength at x distance would increase? And if so, wouldn't the star be drawn into the black hole, increasing its mass and thus expanding its gravitational field (relative to distance of course) in the same way again? This is what I meant by a runaway effect.

First of all you have been answered in many different ways so make sure you read all of what we have said and ask specific questions as to what you did not understand about our explanations.

I'll answer it again, the answer is no.

Think about it like this, I have two peas next to each other and a meter away from an orange all sitting on a table. The orange feels some small gravitational effect from each pea, and since the peas are next to each other you can say, "The orange is feeling two peas worth of gravity in blah direction (the direction of the peas)". Now, mash the peas together, the orange still only feels the attraction of two peas. There is no extra gravity.

The peas can be distant black holes in our example and the orange can be any massive body.

Also, the field is not 'expanded' as I have explained in my previous post.
 
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  • #32
Alright I think I understand. I was completely ignoring the fact that each black hole exerts its own gravitational force; I was only considering one black hole, and ignoring the other one until the point at which they merge. A pretty big error, I admit. I haven't taken a physics course since junior year of high school, so I'm a little (actually a lot) rusty on it. Thanks to everyone for your patience.
 

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