Blackbody radiation intensity find maximum

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The discussion revolves around deriving an expression for the wavelength at which blackbody radiation intensity is maximized, utilizing Planck's law for blackbody radiation. The participants are exploring the mathematical aspects of this problem within the context of thermodynamics and quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of Planck's law with respect to wavelength, considering temperature as a constant. There is a focus on using the product and chain rules in calculus to find the maximum intensity. Questions arise about the clarity of the initial expressions and the steps taken to derive the necessary equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing guidance on the differentiation process and suggesting simplifications of the expression. There is acknowledgment that the approach may lead to an implicit expression for the maximum wavelength, and the discussion is ongoing without a clear consensus on the next steps.

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Participants mention the potential for implicit solutions and the need for careful application of calculus rules. There is also a reference to external resources for further clarification, indicating that some may be seeking additional support outside the forum.

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Homework Statement


By direct calculation, derive and expression for the wavelength λ(max) at which blackbody radiation intensity is a maximum

2. Homework Equations

Planck's law for the intensity distribution of blackbody radiation as a function of wavelength λ and the blackbody temperature T is given by

I(λ,T) = (2pi)hc^2/(λ^5)(e^((hc)/λkT) -1)

h is Planck's constant 6.626 x10^(-34)
k is blotzman constant 1.38066 x10^(-23)
c is speed of light

The Attempt at a Solution



(-5(2pi)(hc^2)λ^(-6))/(e^(hc)/(λkT) - 1) + λ^(-5)(2pi)(hc^2)(-1)(e^((hc)/(λkT)) -1)^(-2)((-hc)/(kTλ^2))

I used the product rule to get to the answer. I have not yet simplified I am wondering if I have even started the problem correctly.
 
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How did you arrive at your expression? And I don't see an equation, just an expression.

(Just show us your starting-off point, we don't need to see the gorty details... )
 
I derived Planck's Law with respect to λ and treated T as a constant. My thoughts were that if I do this and find the derivative I can then set it equal to zero and this will give me an expression for λ(max)
 
That is correct, but I didn't see anything set to zero ... the rest is just 1st-year calculus. You may wind up with an implicit rather than an explicit expression for lambda_max.
 
Yeah the main idea is using the product rule, being careful to use the chain rule for that e. I recently did this problem in my own physics class. A good thing to do is simplify your expression by putting all the constants into one letter

a=hc/kt for example would be a good idea.

If you are frustrated and can't figure out why its not working, go to hyperphysics page: finding the blackbody peak. google it - i'd send you a link but pf won't let me till i have 10 posts
 

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