Bohr-Sommerfeld Rule: Solving for the Quantized Values of E, r, and ω

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The discussion focuses on the application of the Bohr-Sommerfeld rule to a modified force equation for atomic systems, specifically using the force equation ##F = -\frac{\beta}{r^4}##. Participants explore the relationships between kinetic energy (##K_E##), potential energy (##V##), and total energy (##E##) in circular orbits, ultimately deriving expressions for quantized values of radius (##r_n##), angular frequency (##\omega_n##), and energy (##E_n##). The ambiguity surrounding the definition of ##\beta## is acknowledged but deemed non-critical for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


Imagine that force for is atom was ## F= - \frac{\beta}{r^4}##, rather than ##F=- \frac{ke^2}{r^2}##, and consider only circular orbits, it would remain true that ##L_n= n \hbar##

a.) From Netwon's law find the relationship between ##T ##(Kinetic Energy) and ##V##,
b.) Find ##E## as a function of ##r##
c.) Find quantized values of ##r_n##
d.) "" quantized values of ##\omega_n##
e.) "" quantized values of ##E_n##
f.) Does it remain true that for high ##n, \Delta E= E_{n+1}- E_n \approx \hbar \omega_n ##

Note: The definition of ##\beta## is not given. It bothers me. They are not saying that from both F's given we could solve for ##\beta##, how do I overcome this ambiguity.

The Attempt at a Solution


a.)[/B] Comparing force in a spring
## F_{net}=F_{spring} =-kx= ma##
The description of SHM is closely related to uniform circular motion.
##E= K_E +V##

##E=\frac{1 m v^2}{2} + \frac{kx^2}{2}##

Is this correct?

b.)
##E =K_E + V ##
We are given ## F=- \frac{\beta}{r^4}##
We know that centripetal force ##F_c= \frac{mv^2}{r} ##
## r F = mv^2##
According to the problem this F and the F involving ##\beta## are equivalent.
So, ##mv^2= r \frac{\beta}{r^4} = \frac{\beta}{r^3}##
Then, ##K_E = \frac{\beta}{2r^3}##

Now, note that ##V=- \int F dr##
## V= + \int \frac{\beta}{r^4} dr= \beta \frac{1}{-3 r^3}##

Finally, ## E= \frac{\beta}{2r^3} - \frac{\beta}{3r^3}##
 
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knowLittle said:
Note: The definition of ##\beta## is not given. It bothers me. They are not saying that from both F's given we could solve for ##\beta##, how do I overcome this ambiguity.
The numerical value of ##\beta## is not important to solve the problem, just like the numerical values of ##k## and ##e## wouldn't be needed in the case with the Coulomb interaction.

knowLittle said:
a.) Comparing force in a spring
## F_{net}=F_{spring} =-kx= ma##
The description of SHM is closely related to uniform circular motion.
##E= K_E +V##

##E=\frac{1 m v^2}{2} + \frac{kx^2}{2}##

Is this correct?
This is not relevant to the problem, which has nothing to do with harmonic motion. Part of the solution for a) you actually have answered in b).
 

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