Boltzmann distribution and energy difference

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Boltzmann distribution in the context of a homework problem involving the energy difference between the ground and excited states of calcium, as well as calculations related to population ratios at different temperatures.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to derive the energy difference between the ground and excited states using the wavelength of absorbed light (422.7 nm).
  • Another participant confirms that the energy difference can be calculated from the photon energy corresponding to the given wavelength.
  • A third participant calculates the energy difference to be 282.15 kJ/mol but expresses confusion over obtaining zero for subsequent calculations.
  • There is a suggestion that the units used in calculations may not match, specifically regarding the Boltzmann constant and energy units.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method to calculate the energy difference from the wavelength, but there is uncertainty regarding the calculations for population ratios, with one participant receiving unexpected results.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted issue with unit consistency in calculations, particularly between J/mol and J, which may affect the results. The discussion does not resolve the discrepancies in the calculations for N*/N0.

Who May Find This Useful

Students working on problems related to the Boltzmann distribution, energy levels in atomic physics, and those needing clarification on unit conversions in thermodynamic calculations.

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Homework Statement



The first excited state of Ca is reached by absorption of 422.7-nm light.
• Find the energy difference (kJ/mol) between ground and excited states.
• The degeneracies are g*/g0 = 3 for Ca. Find N*/N0 at 2 500 K.
• By what percentage will N*/N0 change with a 15-K rise in temperature?
• Find N*/N0 at 6 000 K.

Homework Equations



N2/N1 =(g2/g1 )^(-∆E/kT) (boltzmann distribution equation)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that g* is 2 and g. is 1
The Boltzmann constant is 1.381 x 10 -23 j/K
However I'm not sure how to get the energy from this information. If someone could help me out to get me started I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

Homework Statement


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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After thinking about it a bit more would the energy difference just be the energy of a photon of light with the wavelength of 422.7 nm?

If someone could confirm this I'm pretty sure I could figure the rest out.
 
Yes, that is correct (remember to multiply by Avogadro's constant to get the energy per mole of photons, however).
 
Okay so I've figured out the energy to be 282.15 kj/mol

For the rest of the parts I seem to get 0 for all of them. This doesn't seem right to me. Any advice?

I've been doing N2/N1 = 3^-(282150J)/[(1.381x10^-23J/K)(2500K)]
Using this I get an answer of 0
I get the same answer with a temperature of 2515K and 6000K.
 
Your units need to match. If you are expressing your units of energy in J/mol then you need to use a Boltzmann constant with units of J/mol K (8.314 J/mol K). Alternatively, you could express your ΔE in terms of J and use the 1.381x10^-23 J/K value for the Boltzmann constant.
 
Thanks that cleared up that question. :biggrin:
 

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