Boltzmann Equation-where'd the 3 come from?

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the Boltzmann equation in the context of thermal equilibrium within the Friedman-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric, as outlined in Kolb and Turner's "The Early Universe." The key equation presented is the Boltzmann equation, which incorporates a factor of 3 in the second term, attributed to the integration by parts of the number density over momentum space. The factor arises from the expression for the time evolution of the number density, specifically from the term \(\frac{1}{R^3}\frac{d}{dt}(R^3)n\). Participants suggest reviewing Wayne Hu's PhD thesis for further clarification on the derivation.

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Boltzmann Equation--where'd the 3 come from?

Greetings, I'm a little bit confused about the derivation for the Boltzmann equation for a particle in thermal equilibrium in the Friedman-Robertson-Walker metric. I've been following the exposition in Kolb and Turner, The Early Universe p. 116. I reproduce all the relevant results here.

In particular:
We are given (K&T, eq 5.5) that for a phase space distribution f the form of the Liouville operator in the FRW model is given by:

\hat{\mathbf{L}}[f(E,t)] = E\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}|\mathbf{p}|^2\frac{\partial f}{\partial E}

Further, the number density n is given by an integral over momenta (K&T eq. 5.6):

n(t) = \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int d^3p f(E,t)

where g is the number of internal degrees of freedom.

The Boltzmann equation, \hat{\mathbf{L}}[f]= \mathbf{C}[f], can then be written out by plugging in the above equation for the Liouville operator on the left hand side.

We can then divide by E, multiply by \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}, and perform a momentum space integral to express the Boltzmann equation in terms of n.

Kolb and Turner write the result as:

\frac{dn}{dt} + 3\frac{\dot{R}}{R}n = \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\textbf{C}[f]\frac{d^3p}{E}

I'm confused by the factor of 3 in the seccond term and am not sure how this is resolved. I'm also not sure how to treat the energy in the momentum integral--I assume that since E^2=\mathbf{p}^2+m^2, one can rewrite the momentum integral in spherical coordinates where the function f is a function of the radial coordinate alone. I assume some integration by parts is necessary, but this still does not account for the factor of 3.

Any help would be appreciated,


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fliptomato said:
I assume some integration by parts is necessary, but this still does not account for the factor of 3.
I haven't read Kolb and Turner's book, but I think you'll find the factor 3 and the rest of that term comes from:
\frac{1}{R^3}\frac{d}{dt}(R^3)n

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A bit late for the one who asked, but perhaps it helps those who have the same problem

E\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}|\mathbf{p}|^2\frac{\partial f}{\partial E} = \hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]
divide by E
\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}|\mathbf{p}|^2\frac{\partial f}{E\partial E} = \hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{1}{E}
integrate
\frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int d^3p\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}|\mathbf{p}|^2\frac{\partial f}{E\partial E} = \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}
n(t)-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}\frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int d^3p|\mathbf{p}|^2\frac{\partial f}{E\partial E} = \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}
use
E\partial E=p\partial p
n(t)-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}\frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int 4\pi dp|\mathbf{p}|^2|\mathbf{p}|^2\frac{\partial f}{p\partial p} = \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}
n(t)-\frac{\dot{R}}{R}\frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int 4\pi dpp^3\frac{\partial f}{\partial p} = \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}
integration by part:
n(t)+\frac{\dot{R}}{R}\frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int 4\pi dp3p^2f= \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}
n(t)+3\frac{\dot{R}}{R}\frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int 4\pi dpp^2f= \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}
n(t)+3\frac{\dot{R}}{R}n(t)= \frac{g}{(2\pi)^3}\int\hat{\mathbf{C}}[f(E,t)]\frac{d^3p}{E}



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