Bomb blast in Oslo; PM's office building targeted.

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The discussion revolves around the recent terror attacks in Oslo, Norway, including a car bomb explosion targeting the governmental quarters and a shooting incident at a political youth camp on Utøya. Participants express shock, share updates, and discuss the implications of these events.

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  • Some participants report on the car bomb explosion in Oslo, noting confirmed deaths and injuries.
  • Others mention ongoing gunfire at a youth camp on Utøya, where a shooter disguised as a police officer is attacking teenagers.
  • There are claims of panic among the youths, with some attempting to swim to safety, which is viewed as dangerous due to the distance from the mainland.
  • Participants express condolences and solidarity with Norway, highlighting the tragic nature of the events.
  • Some discuss the potential motivations behind the attacks, speculating on the involvement of internal or external groups.
  • There are conflicting views on the severity of the attacks, with some downplaying the impact compared to other historical events, while others emphasize the significance of the attacks in Norway.
  • Reports of varying death tolls and the chaotic situation on Utøya are shared, with participants expressing hope for the safety of those still on the island.
  • One participant mentions a group claiming responsibility for the attacks, though the authenticity of this claim is questioned.

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Participants express a range of emotions and opinions regarding the attacks, with no clear consensus on the motivations behind the events or the implications for Norway. Disagreements arise over the characterization of the attacks and the comparison to other incidents of violence.

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There are limitations in the information available, including uncertainty about the number of casualties and the status of ongoing rescue efforts. The discussion reflects a rapidly evolving situation with conflicting reports.

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Terror has struck the Norwegian capital today.
At 15.26 local time (roughly two hours ago), what appears to have been a car bomb blasted off in the governmental quarters in Oslo.
Several have been confirmed dead; although none of our political leasers/ministers seem to be missing/hurt.

This a sad day for our nation.
 
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Reuters has a report here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/22/us-norway-blast-idUSTRE76L2VI20110722
 
WHAT THE? Now there is gunfire in Oslo, in some type of 'political camp'? :eek::eek::eek:


Edit: Sky News – Confirmed, some sort of organized terror attack... ongoing!
 
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DevilsAvocado said:
WHAT THE? Now there is gunfire in Oslo, in some type of 'political camp'? :eek::eek::eek:

That is correct.
A person disguised as a police officer visited the Oslofjord island Utøya, where the Labour Youth (teenagers) have their traditional summer camp.
He began firing about; people fled and hid.
Nothing more has yet surfaced about this onslaught yet.
 
Several of the youths at Utøya (approx 700 teenagers are there every year) have panicked, and begun swimming from the island.
That is a VERY BAD idea (but understandable), since the island is quite far from themain land.
I've beern there once at a mathematics course; I believe the ferry used something like 10-15 minutes to reach Utøya.
 
... omg ... as said, all sympathies from your neighbors ...
 
Oh my, what a horror.

I wish all the best for Norway - you have the world's support, stay tough!
 
Not that it matters a lot, but Utøya lies in the inland lake Tyrifjord, rather than in the Oslo fjord.

Today, previous prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, internationally renowned for the brundtland commission on environment and her stint as general secretary of WHO is reported to have made a speech at Utøya.

I haven't found out if she is still out there, but the situation at Utøya is NOT under control at the moment.
 
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Terrible. Those poor kids.

I hope they catch the person/persons responsible for the bombing and now this.
 
  • #11
no no no... 4 youths confirmed killed on the island, shooting ongoing ... :frown:
 
  • #12
Luckily, your terrorists seem incompetent. Some traffic accidents kill and injure more people than this terror attack did.

*edit* I'm mainly talking about the bomb blast, not the ongoing murder spree on the island.
 
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Jack21222 said:
Luckily, your terrorists seem incompetent. Some traffic accidents kill and injure more people than this terror attack did.
These are EVIL persons, in contrast to the drunk drivers of the world.
 
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4 are reported shot at Utøya, but deaths have not been confirmed.

However, the rescue teams who entered the government building R4 have found SEVERAL dead inside.
 
  • #15
arildno said:
Idiot.
These are EVIL persons, in contrast to the drunk drivers of the world.

Yes, and the evil people have done less damage to Norway than they have in almost any other nation they attack.

Madrid had 191 killed and 1800 injured.
London had 56 killed and 700 injured
New York had over 3000 killed and many more injured
Mumbai had 166 killed

All I'm saying is luckily it wasn't worse.
 
  • #16
arildno said:
Idiot.
These are EVIL persons, in contrast to the drunk drivers of the world.

I'm ignorant about Norwegian politics - are there any internal groups (anarchists, fringe political groups, etc.) who could possibly do such a thing? This comes to mind because it seems from the initial reports that the PM, and maybe his party, are being targeted.
 
  • #17
lisab said:
I'm ignorant about Norwegian politics - are there any internal groups (anarchists, fringe political groups, etc.) who could possibly do such a thing? This comes to mind because it seems from the initial reports that the PM, and maybe his party, are being targeted.
Members of the Religion of Peace.
We have quite of a lot of them here.
 
  • #18
Jack21222 said:
Yes, and the evil people have done less damage to Norway than they have in almost any other nation they attack.

Madrid had 191 killed and 1800 injured.
London had 56 killed and 700 injured
New York had over 3000 killed and many more injured
Mumbai had 166 killed

All I'm saying is luckily it wasn't worse.
First, this is Norway, things like this don't happen there. Trying to dismiss this because other places have greater violence is ridiculous.
 
  • #19
Evo said:
First, this is Norway, things like this don't happen there. Trying to dismiss this because other places have greater violence is ridiculous.

In no way am I being dismissive. I agree it's a bad thing, and I'm sure it's shocking to Norwegians, all I'm saying is it could have been a lot worse, and it wasn't.
 
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arildno said:
4 are reported shot at Utøya, but deaths have not been confirmed.

According to Sky News 5 is now confirmed dead on the island, but Sky are hopefully wrong. The terrorist has an automatic weapon, according to Sky.
 
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DevilsAvocado said:
According to Sky News 5 is now confirmed dead on the island, but Sky are hopefully wrong. The terrorist has an automatic weapon, according to Sky.

The county secretary in Labour Youth Telemark is the source of this message from Twitter, where he has said 4 persons shot&dead.

It is complete chaos out there; I hope he is wrong.

Some have managed to swim over, and hopefully, the others will be picked up by the police boats.
 
  • #22
arildno said:
These are EVIL persons, in contrast to the drunk drivers of the world.
Exactly. My condolences to the people of Norway.
 
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Jack21222 said:
all I'm saying is it could have been a lot worse, and it wasn't.

Please, stop this nonsense. You are way out, and it’s a disgrace for the victims. This is a TERRORIST ATTACK on Norway, Europe, NATO and all other western countries, and it is NOT OVER for god’s sake!
 
  • #24
This is the co-ordinated action of a terror group; where one part of the group carried out the attack at the government building, and another person of the group disguised himself as a policeman and when getting to Utøya asked to inform the youths about the bombing action.

THEN, he began to shoot at the assembled teenagers..
 
  • #25
arildno said:
The county secretary in Labour Youth Telemark is the source of this message from Twitter, where he has said 4 persons shot&dead.

It is complete chaos out there; I hope he is wrong.

Some have managed to swim over, and hopefully, the others will be picked up by the police boats.

... geez :frown: Sky is saying that one man is arrested on the island ...
 
  • #27
Yup, it is confirmed that a person was arrested, around 19.20 local time (ca. 8 minutes ago)
 
  • #28
mheslep said:
1:19 EST (3 mins old):
Norway TV reported that a group called Helpers of the Global Jihad said "This is just the beginning of what will come," though the TV station said it's unclear that the group has taken responsibility

as expected :mad::mad::mad:
 
  • #29
It is confirmed that previous prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, who has an iconic "Mother of the Country" position here left Utøya approximately 15 local time, an hour before the desperado began to shoot.
 
  • #30
Ongoing press conference:

7 confirmed dead as per now in the government building.
 

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