News Bomb blast in Oslo; PM's office building targeted.

[arildno]

This video was taken 5-10 min. after the bomb exploded in Oslo, prior to the cordoning off of the area.
"Incompetents", indeed!

 

[arildno]

I'm ignorant about Norwegian politics - are there any internal groups (anarchists, fringe political groups, etc.) who could possibly do such a thing? This comes to mind because it seems from the initial reports that the PM, and maybe his party, are being targeted.

If I should hazard a couple of guesses, it might be :

1) A response to Norway's engagement in Afghanistan
2) A response to Norway's bombing engagement in Libya.

 

[Astronuc]

It seems to be a rather large car bomb given the extent of damage over several blocks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14252515

Several fatalities and injuries.

 

[lisab]

Damn terrorists. This sort of thing makes me sad, and very angry.

 

[arildno]

A horror report at Norwegian radio from one of the members from the rescue boats to Utøya:

He estimated that he saw AT LEAST 25-30 shot&dead teenagers lying in the coastal zone/floating in the waters around the island.
This is not officially confirmed.

There has been a report that the purported assassin had a Scandinavian outlook, blond.

It MIGHT be a Timothy McVeigh scenario we have witnessed, where a neo-nazi group has attacked the dominant centres of Labour party power, i.e, the PM office and the Labour Party "school" at Utøya.

 

[DevilsAvocado]

It seems to be a rather large car bomb given the extent of damage over several blocks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14252515

Several fatalities and injuries.

Agree, check out "arildno’s" video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Nnujn_SSM&hd=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Nnujn_SSM

If "only" < 10 was killed in this terrible attack, it’s nothing but a miracle... this is in the center of Oslo...

 

[DevilsAvocado]

Damn terrorists. This sort of thing makes me sad, and very angry.

true... confusing mixed feelings...

 

[DevilsAvocado]

A horror report at Norwegian radio from one of the members from the rescue boats to Utøya:

He estimated that he saw AT LEAST 25-30 shot&dead teenagers lying in the coastal zone/floating in the waters around the island.
This is not officially confirmed.

There has been a report that the purported assassin had a Scandinavian outlook, blond.

It MIGHT be a Timothy McVeigh scenario we have witnessed, where a neo-nazi group has attacked the dominant centres of Labour party power, i.e, the PM office and the Labour Party "school" at Utøya.

I can’t take this anymore... the world HAS gone crazy

 

[Jack21222]

A horror report at Norwegian radio from one of the members from the rescue boats to Utøya:

He estimated that he saw AT LEAST 25-30 shot&dead teenagers lying in the coastal zone/floating in the waters around the island.
This is not officially confirmed.

There has been a report that the purported assassin had a Scandinavian outlook, blond.

It MIGHT be a Timothy McVeigh scenario we have witnessed, where a neo-nazi group has attacked the dominant centres of Labour party power, i.e, the PM office and the Labour Party "school" at Utøya.

And if it is, will you apologize to the Muslims you blamed?

 

[arildno]

And if it is, will you apologize to the Muslims you blamed?

Good heavens, why?

It is neither a criminal, nor an immoral, nor irrational act to blame the groups commonly associated with such atrocities.

Whatever they might feel about it, whether my initial suspicion proves right or wrong.

 

[rootX]

Speculations are pointless/just garbage.

I feel sorry for all the families and people who suffered.

Interesting analysis article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14256438
"If the bomb blast in Oslo turns out to be a terror attack, it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway."

They may well do so again now, though this time might be different.

Norway's attitude to risk might now change, quickly and dramatically, as private individuals withdraw and as central authorities bolster security.

If so, a possible goal of the attackers may well have been achieved, in that they have robbed Norway of its innocence.

It does not have much substance related to the accident.

 

[arildno]

10 confirmed dead at Utøya; at least 17 brought to hospitals, many of them with hypothermic body temperatures indicative of having floated in the weter

 

[arildno]

The police are interrogating the suspect from Utøya at the moment.

They have, in one report confirmed that there are what seems to be observations of this individual in Oslo prior to the bomb explosion.It MIGHT therefore be a loner operation, a highly organized individual first placing the bomb in Oslo, and then driving off to Utøya (roughly an hour's drive, I think).

On the other hand, he may have waited to see that the others' work was successful, before launching his own sub-operation.

A disturbing report talks about a possible bomb having gone off in the 3rd or 4th floor (possibly in conjunction with a car bomb) in the government building, either indicative of an insider's job, or a highly inadequate security apparatus.

 

[skippy1729]

according to NYT:

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces’ presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp

 

[arildno]

A press conference by the Prime Minister is imminent.

 

[arildno]

Minister of Justice has officially confirmed that the arrested individual was a Norwegian.

 

[Evo]

Minister of Justice has officially confirmed that the arrested individual was a Norwegian.

Are they a member of that group, or have they been able to verify yet?

 

[arildno]

Are they a member of that group, or have they been able to verify yet?

Nothing like that has surfaced.
The arrested individual is the fake policeman (who, reportedly, was spotted in Oslo just prior to the explosion there).

I am inclining towards a despicable Timothy McVeigh-type behind these attacks, possibly acting alone.

 

[turbo]

Nothing like that has surfaced.
The arrested individual is the fake policeman (who, reportedly, was spotted in Oslo just prior to the explosion there).

I am inclining towards a despicable Timothy McVeigh-type behind these attacks, possibly acting alone.

I hope it is not something more organized and insidious than a lone nut-case.

 

[arildno]

I hope it is not something more organized and insidious than a lone nut-case.

If that IS the case, it might have grave consequences in stifling perfectly legitimate criticisms from conservative milieux highly critical of, for example, multiculturalist dogmas, by smearing them with this vile act.

 

[Newai]

I wish I could be there. I hope all involved are rounded up quickly so they don't learn from this in re. to further plans they might have.

 

[arildno]

A police conference is imminent at 23.15, local time.

 

[arildno]

Undetonated explosives have been found at Utøya.

The fake policeman is described as ethnic Norwegian, 32 years old.

7 killed in Oslo, 9-10 gravely wounded.

At the moment, 10 confirmed dead at Utøya, but the police mayor in oslo says reports from the "fine search" leads us to expect more dead.

 

[Borg]

My deepest condolences to all of your fellow countrymen, arildno. I hope that the people who did this are brought swiftly to justice - whoever it is.

 

[arildno]

My deepest condolences to all of your fellow countrymen, arildno. I hope that the people who did this are brought swiftly to justice - whoever it is.

Thank you for your words.

IF this is a right winger, norwegian blogs are surfacing rumours of a norwegian in the right age group who was charged for murder attempts and illegal weapons possessions back in 2001. he had also police&military uniforms then.

Then, 10 years ago, he was 23.

 

[arildno]

That is NOT confirmed.
From what I can see, Anders is 35, not 32.

It might be a c*ck-up, because his home address is an apartment BLOCK that is rumoured to be the one now razziaed by the police.

There are MANY blond Norwegians, even in the same apartment block..

EDIT:
Seems Anders is born in 1979, but these are still UNCONFIRMED rumours.

 

[Evo]

I've deleted the FB info on that person, we can restore it if it turns out to be him.

 

[rhody]

I can't believe, but must accept this has happened again. My thoughts are with your people, especially those young lives on that island, their families and friends. I hope the perpetrators are brought to justice. Hang tough, arildno...

Rhody...

 

[DevilsAvocado]

That is NOT confirmed.
From what I can see, Anders is 35, not 32.

It might be a c*ck-up, because his home address is an apartment BLOCK that is rumoured to be the one now razziaed by the police.

There are MANY blond Norwegians, even in the same apartment block..

EDIT:
Seems Anders is born in 1979, but these are still UNCONFIRMED rumours.

Ops sorry ...

They said on Sky News that it was confirmed on Norwegian TV that his name is xxxx xxxx, but if this is wrong ... well better to be 100% before posting ...

@Evo: Okay, thanks

 

[arildno]

It is now confirmed that the suspect IS Anders Behring breivik