Boom problem using rotational equilibrium methods

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The discussion revolves around a boom problem involving rotational equilibrium methods. The original poster seeks assistance in determining three unknowns: tension (T), vertical force (V), and horizontal force (H) using given variables such as the length of the boom, mass of the boom, mass of the load, angle (Θ), distance (x), and distance (p).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the selection of a pivot point for torque calculations, with suggestions to place it where the most unknown forces act. The original poster considers the intersection of vertical and horizontal forces as a potential pivot point.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on the selection of pivot points and checking the consistency of the original poster's torque equations. There is a sense of progress as the original poster expresses confidence in solving for T and subsequently V and H.

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The problem is constrained by the absence of numerical values, requiring the use of variables throughout the discussion. Participants are also addressing potential discrepancies between the original poster's calculations and the provided diagram.

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URGENT! Boom problem using rotational equilibrium methods

Hi!

Here is a picture of the problem I'm about to explain... http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l168/synovial/boom.jpg

My professor did not give us numbers to use, just variables.

The goal of the problem is to find the 3 unknowns: T, V, and H. The given variables are the entire length of the boom (L--not pictured), mass of the boom, mass of the load, [tex]\Theta[/tex], x, and p.

The rope is connected to distance x from the end. The load hangs at distance p from the end. The boom's center of gravity is in the middle.

I know that I am supposed to find all of the forces in the X and Y directions, but I can't seem to calculate the torques correctly.

[tex]\Sigma[/tex]Fx = 0
0 = H -Tcos[tex]\Theta[/tex]

[tex]\Sigma[/tex]Fy = 0
0 = V + Tsin[tex]\Theta[/tex]-Wboom-Wload

[tex]\Sigma[/tex][tex]\tau[/tex]Fa = 0
0 = [tex]\tau[/tex]T perpindicular + [tex]\tau[/tex]V + [tex]\tau[/tex]H + [tex]\tau[/tex]W boom + [tex]\tau[/tex]W load

Can someone please help me? Thanks!
 
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qnney--always start torque problems by picking a good pivot point! Where do you want yours to be? (HINT: Put it at the point where you have the most unknown forces acting).

Don't hesitate to ask more questions if you get stuck again!
 


I think a good place for the pivot point would be at the intersection of the V and H forces. Does this work?
 


That's what I used.
 


Ok, so far I think I've figured out:

Sum of the torques = 0
0 = -Tsin[tex]theta[/tex](L-p) + Wboom(L/2) + Wload (L-x)
 


Er... well, that's not consistent with the drawing you made OR with the description of the problem, but it's close.

The issue seems to be with your radii. The tension connects to the beam at a radius of (L-x) according to the text of the problem, and at (L-p-x) according to the picture. By both accounts, the load connects to the beam at a radius of (L-p)

It looks like you just got a bit mixed up, but otherwise, you seem to be on the right track.
 


Thanks so so much! I wasn't so sure if I was getting those right.

So now I think I can solve for T in this problem and then plug that value back into the [tex]\Sigma[/tex]Fx and [tex]\Sigma[/tex]Fy equations to get V and H.

:)
 


Looks like you're on the home stretch now!
 


Thanks for your help!
 
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Hey, no problemo!
 

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