Bounds on zeroes theorem? requires calc proof?

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The discussion revolves around the bounds on zeros theorem, its proof requirements, and its relationship to calculus and complex analysis. Participants explore whether algebra alone suffices for understanding the theorem.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants question the necessity of calculus for proving the bounds on zeros theorem and discuss its connection to Rouche's theorem. There are inquiries about the level of mathematical background needed to understand the theorem and its proof.

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The conversation includes suggestions for further reading and the types of mathematical knowledge required, such as calculus and real analysis. Some participants express uncertainty about whether algebraic proofs exist, indicating a lack of consensus on the proof's requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for familiarity with set theory, logic, and specific textbooks to grasp the concepts related to the theorem.

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I've come across the bounds on zeros theorem in my algebra book, but they don't seem to try to offer proof for it. Does this proof require calculus?
 
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micromass said:
Yes, they are based on Rouche's theorem. This is a classical theorem in complex analysis. Here is some information on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_polynomial_roots

So I do need more than algebra to understand it and this is why they didn't show proof of it?
 
Curd said:
So I do need more than algebra to understand it and this is why they didn't show proof of it?

Yes to understand that you'll need to learn so set theory and logic i believe.
 
Curd said:
So I do need more than algebra to understand it and this is why they didn't show proof of it?

Yes.


There might be proofs with only algebra, but I do not know them.
 
mtayab1994 said:
Yes to understand that you'll need to learn so set theory and logic i believe.

what are good books on this?
 
Read "Complex Analysis" by Freitag and Busam. But in order to be able to read that, you'll need some familiarity with calculus I-III and real analysis.
 
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micromass said:
Read "Complex Analysis" by Freitag and Busam. But in order to be able to read that, you'll need some familiarity with calculus I-III and real analysis.


What book would be good for real analysis?
 
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Curd said:
What book would be good for real analysis?

I'd say "principles of real analysis" by Aliprantis and Burkinshaw/
 

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