Boyle's Law [mmHg]: Solving Atmospheric Pressure with a Mercury Barometer

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The discussion revolves around a mercury barometer experiment designed to measure atmospheric pressure. The original poster describes the setup involving a sealed capillary tube containing air and mercury, with varying lengths of the air column under different orientations. The context is rooted in Boyle's Law, which relates the volume and pressure of a gas at constant temperature.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure and volume as described by Boyle's Law, questioning how to apply it to the experimental setup. There are inquiries about the pressure exerted on the trapped air in both horizontal and vertical orientations of the tube. Some participants express uncertainty about the completeness of the information provided in the problem statement.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the pressure calculations and the implications of the experiment's setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between pressure and force, and the effects of orientation on the trapped air's pressure. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the forces acting on the trapped air.

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There are indications that the problem may lack certain details necessary for a complete analysis, as noted by participants questioning the sufficiency of the provided information. The discussion also touches on safety concerns related to the use of mercury in educational settings.

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A simple mercury barometer consists of a vertical glass tube sealed at its upper end containing a column of mercury. The space between the top of the mercury column and the upper end of the tube is a vacuum. A mercury column height of 760 mm is equivalent to atmospheric pressure 1.0x105 Pa.

A school experiment to find atmospheric pressure befotre the days of modern health legislation was as follows. A length of air was trapped in a capillary tube sealed at one end by a thread of mercury. When the tube was held horizontally, the length of the trapped air column was 82 mm and the length of the thread of mercury was 39 mm.

When the tube was held vertically with the open end upwards, the air column was squashed to 78 mm.

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Find the value of atmospheric pressure in mm of mercury (mmHg).


We're given this statement (Boyle's Law):
The volume of a fixed mass of gas is inversely proportional to the pressure exerted on it, provided the temperature is kept constant.

I imagine this constructs an equation like this: p1V1 = p2V2

I can't really relate this to the question though, it's probably something really simple I'm missing.
 
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What is the pressure on the air (in the sealed part of the tube) in the two cases?
 
mgb_phys said:
What is the pressure on the air (in the sealed part of the tube) in the two cases?

That's all the information it gives, sorry.

There are a few rogue questions in our textbook because they are published so quickly for the changing syllabus, so it appears it hasn't been very well checked. Maybe this is another one of those questions, where they didn't give needed information?
 
No they give you all the information you need - it's a very simple and elegant experiment.
i was asking you to think about pressure = force / area, what's the difference in the force and hence the pressure on the trapped air in the two cases/
 
This is a really cool question. I was stumped for a few minutes before I started thinking about what additional effects are present when the capillary tube is vertical that were not there before. Do you remember in which direction pressure acts?
 
it's a very neat experiment. it's a pity you can't do it anymore because if you allowed a few grams of mercury into schools billions would instantly be killed.
 
mgb_phys said:
No they give you all the information you need - it's a very simple and elegant experiment.
i was asking you to think about pressure = force / area, what's the difference in the force and hence the pressure on the trapped air in the two cases/

Well the area and force will be the same in both, won't they? It doesn't actually give the surface area of the tube, and the force provided by the weight of the mercury is anyone's guess.

I'm not having difficulty understanding how the experiment works, I just don't know how to quantize everything.
 
In the horizontal case the mercury is being pushed toward the sealed end of the tube by the outside atmosphere and the air is pushing back with an equal force. So the air trapped in the tube is under one atmosphere of pressure.

In the second case the mercury is pushing down with one atmosphere of pressure PLUS the weight of the blob of mercury.
So the air in the tube is under 1 atmosphere + X of pressure.
From boyles law we know that if the volume has dereased by 78/82 then the pressure must have gone up by 82/78 = 1.05.

if you work out the weight of the mercury you know this is (82/78-1) of an atmosphere you can work out what an atmosphere of pressure is.

hint; since we are talking about pressure (force/area) the width of the tube doesn't matter - can you see why?

hint2: the drawing is a little bad - you aren't expected to take into account the curved ends of the mercury bead.
 

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