Branch-cut singularity and the multiparticle contribution to the full propagator

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The discussion centers around the concept of branch-cut singularities in the context of quantum field theory (QFT) and their interpretation in relation to the full propagator and the complex logarithm of negative numbers. Participants explore the implications of these singularities and their significance in physics, particularly in relation to the Kallen Lehman spectral representation.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on what a branch-cut singularity is and its importance in physics, expressing confusion about its implications.
  • Another participant explains that a branch cut represents a discontinuity in the complex plane, where the function is not single-valued, contrasting it with pole singularities that diverge to infinity.
  • A different participant questions whether singularities are essential to physical quantities or if they render these quantities ill-defined, suggesting a need to reconcile these concepts.
  • One participant suggests that understanding the mathematics of complex analysis is crucial before delving into its physical applications.
  • Another participant describes branch-cut singularities as continuous singularities that lead to a continuum of poles, relating this to the energy and momentum of particles in QFT.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and interpretation of branch-cut singularities, with no consensus reached on their physical significance or how to reconcile their mathematical properties with physical quantities.

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Participants reference the Kallen Lehman spectral representation and the complex logarithm, indicating that the discussion may involve advanced mathematical concepts that are not fully resolved in the context of their physical implications.

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I have been reading Chapter 7 of Peskin & Schroeder about full propagator, the Kallen Lehman spectral representation, and got stuck at the branch cut singularities and at the complex logarithm of negative numbers. I have posted in the Analysis forum (but have not received any answer) the following question:

Does anyone know what a branch-cut singularity is? I have been trying to understand its importance in physics, but I got lost. I would guess that a singularity in physical context should mean that the value of a function should become very big near that singularity. But if we take complex logarithm, we can become big only in two cases, when the argument is either 0 or infinity.
However, people choose the negative part of a real line in a complex plane as a branch cut for a complex logarithm, and say that this branch cut is a weak singulartiy compared to a simple pole. What do they mean by that?

Can anyone comment something about the "weakness of branch-cut singularities" in QFT or overall in physics.
 
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gremezd said:
Does anyone know what a branch-cut singularity is?
From the sound of your question, I'm guessing you haven't looked at the
Wiki page on this subject? I.e.,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_cut

I have been trying to understand its importance in physics, but I got lost. I would guess that a singularity in physical context should mean that the value of a function should become very big near that singularity.
More generally, "singularity" can mean that the function becomes ill-defined at that point.
In the case of a branch cut, the function ceases to be single-valued there, which is
not quite as nasty as diverging to infinity at a pole singularity.
 
A branch cut is a curve on the complex plane, across which the function is discontinuous.
 
Yes, I have read wikepedia both on a branch point and complex logarithm.
But how do we interpret singulartities: do they constitute the essence of physical quantities or, as you say, they make these physical quantities ill-defined? and have to be got ridden of?

I found it interesting that the logarithm of negative numbers can be thought of as integrating over a continuum of poles. But it's quite difficult for me to put in one place the images of these different but closely related concepts: branch-cut singularity, continuum of poles, complex logarithm of negative numbers, discontinuity of logarithm at the branch cut; and the meanging of this in a physical context..
 
This is why you should learn the math before you try to learn the physics that uses it.
I'd suggest a book/course on complex analysis.

There's no physical significance of any mathematical thing in itself. Its significance is whatever you decided to give it when you created a mathematical model.
 
well well, maybe I can help you out.
branch-cut singularities are continuous singularities, which means, you have endless singularities from one point on which is the branch-CUT. Now two particles start to exist from p^2=(2m)^2 on. If they have additional energy (see equation for relativistic particles: p^2=E^2+m^2) their momentum p increases, and as the energy can increase continuously you have continuous possible values for p. And with that you have continuous values for M forming poles and these are the possible singularities and obviously this will be a continuum. You can actually look at figure 7.2 in Peskin and it'll become all clear...
 

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