Break between undergrad and grad (math)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the timing of applications to graduate schools for mathematics, specifically whether to apply during the senior year of undergraduate studies or after graduation. Participants explore the implications of including graduate coursework in applications and share personal experiences and advice regarding the application process.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about applying to grad schools while still in undergraduate studies, noting that their application would lack completed graduate coursework, which may affect its strength.
  • Another participant mentions that it is common for students to apply during their senior year and that schools typically request information about courses that will be taken in the final year.
  • A different participant advises that if the applicant believes they can gain admission with their current qualifications, they should consider applying immediately, while also sharing their own experience of taking a year off to improve their transcript.
  • One participant raises a question about the appropriate timeline for submitting applications for PhD, master's, or honors programs, seeking insight into how far in advance applications should be sent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best time to apply to graduate schools, with differing opinions on the importance of including graduate coursework in applications and the implications of taking a year off.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention personal circumstances that may influence their decisions, such as poor grades and preparation for standardized tests, which could affect the generalizability of their advice.

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Hello

I am currently a pure math major at a top level university, and I am basically committed to attending grad school. I am in my junior year right now.

I am planning on taking several graduate courses as electives during my senior year. My question is whether I should apply to grad schools in the fall of my senior year, or if I should apply after I graduate. If I apply while still in school, my application will not include all of my graduate level coursework that is yet to be completed, and hence my application will probably not be as impressive as if I applied after graduation, with some graduate courses under my belt.

Is this a common thing for math majors to do? Has anybody done this/know someone that has done this? It seems like it makes sense, since the courses that graduate schools care most about are often taken during the students final year.

Any advice would be appreciated!
 
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Usually they ask you to mention the courses that you will be taking, even if they won't be completed when you send out your application.
 
Most students apply to grad school in their senior year. The school's will know what courses you are taking in your final year.

If you think you can get into your choice schools with your current application, I would recommend applying right away. I'm not sure how schools view a year off.


I am a senior who is planning on taking a year off, only because my transcript had a few poor grades in some key courses that I needed to fix with some graduate courses. I also was not prepared to take the math GRE.
 
As an aside: How far ahead should PhD, masters or honours year applications be sent out? A year? Half a year? Two?

I'm far from that point but just curious. :)
 

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