Can carbon dioxide be broken down into carbon monoxide and oxygen?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility and methods of breaking down carbon dioxide into carbon monoxide and oxygen, with references to related processes such as photosynthesis and artificial photosynthesis. The scope includes theoretical and experimental aspects, as well as educational pathways in chemistry relevant to understanding these processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in understanding the methods used to break down carbon dioxide, seeking guidance on relevant chemistry topics to study.
  • Another participant suggests that areas such as electrochemistry, catalysis, and atomic layer deposition are relevant, emphasizing the need for foundational chemistry knowledge.
  • A participant acknowledges the challenge of learning advanced chemistry quickly but seeks a general path to follow for better understanding.
  • Photosynthesis is mentioned as a simpler process involving the conversion of carbon dioxide and water into carbohydrates and oxygen, though it is noted that replicating this in a laboratory setting has not been fully achieved.
  • References to artificial photosynthesis are provided, indicating that while some progress has been made, large-scale implementation remains a challenge.
  • Another participant reiterates that while the process of artificial photosynthesis has seen some success, commercial viability at scale is still likely far off.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relevance of foundational chemistry knowledge for understanding the discussed processes. However, there are competing views regarding the current state of research in artificial photosynthesis and its scalability, with no consensus on the feasibility of replicating photosynthesis in laboratory conditions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the participants' varying levels of chemistry knowledge and the complexity of the processes discussed, which depend on advanced chemical principles and ongoing research developments.

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I have recently seen a paper ( https://www.nature.com/articles/nenergy201787 ) that describes a method to break down carbon dioxide into carbon monoxide and oxygen. I would love to know how they were able to come up with a method such as this but unfortunately I didn't take chemistry in high school, which means I'm not doing it at uni either but I do have a physics/engineering background.

I was wondering which areas in chemistry I should study - any topics that would specifically cover this sort of thing. I would like to know how they design reactions such as this from scratch as I find it really interesting.
 
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Looking at the abstract, it would seem like areas such as electrochemistry, catalysis and atomic layer deposition would be particularly relevant. But if you haven't got even high-school chemistry, these are likely to be meaningless to you. You need to get a grounding in the basic principles of chemistry which will come up in every area, such as valency, chemical bonding, redox reactions, the basic chemistry of the common elements (especially, in this context, carbon, copper and tin, but of course other transition metals might be relevant). The authors come up with ideas like this by having a sound knowledge of chemical principles, and a thorough knowledge of the specific area they are researching (e.g. the catalytic reduction of CO2), plus a flash of inspiration. This takes years to acquire (except the last!).
 
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Yeah I realize I cannot learn this level of advanced chemistry overnight but I was just looking for a general path to wonder down until I eventually start understanding their explanations. Thanks, I'll definitely make sure I try and work my way towards the topics you mentioned!
 
For something simpler, along similar lines, photosynthesis involves the following reaction: ## CO_2+H_2 O ==>> CH_2 O+O_2 ##. ## \\ ## (## CH_2 O ## is the carbohydrate building block). ## \\ ## Meanwhile, if we try mixing ## CO_2 ## and water without all the complicated processes in photosynthesis, we simply get sugarless soda pop =(carbonated water without any sugar/carbohydrate): ## CO_2+H_2 O ==>> HCO_3^{-}+H^{+} ##. (## CO_2 ## dissolved in water plus carbonic acid). ## \\ ## As far as I know, they haven't succeeded at performing the photosynthesis reaction in the laboratory.
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
@Ygggdrasil Thank you. From a quick review of these articles, it appears the process has been accomplished, but they presently are unable to do it on a large scale. Some of the successes in the research are very current. From the looks of things, the on-going research is quite active and also very promising.
 
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Charles Link said:
@Ygggdrasil Thank you. From a quick review of these articles, it appears the process has been accomplished, but they presently are unable to do it on a large scale. Some of the successes in the research are very current. From the looks of things, the on-going research is quite active and also very promising.

Yes, it's a very active area of research though anything commercializable at a larger scale is still probably far away.
 
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