Breather solution of the sine-Gordon equation

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The discussion centers on the breather solution of the sine-Gordon equation, specifically the equation $$u_{tt}-u_{xx}+\sin u = 0$$. Participants analyze the substitution of the variable separation form $$u(x,t)=4\arctan (\Theta(x,t)); \Theta(x,t)=A(t)B(x)$$ into the sine-Gordon equation. Key points include the incorrect definitions of $$\partial_t F(\Theta)$$ and $$\partial_x F(\Theta)$$, which should be expressed as $$\partial_t F(\Theta) = \partial_t(\Theta)\partial_\Theta F(\Theta)$$. The final expressions for $$u_{tt}$$ and $$u_{xx}$$ are also discussed, leading to the conclusion that further simplification using $$\tilde{A}$$ is necessary for clarity.

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In a homework problem, the following statement is made:

Sine-Gordon equation for the field u(x, t) in dimensionless units reads:
$$u_{tt}-u_{xx}+\sin u = 0$$
Search for the breather solution in the form of variable separation:
$$u(x,t)=4\arctan (\Theta(x,t)); \Theta(x,t)=A(t)B(x)$$

a. Substitute the above equation into sine-Gordon equation. Transform derivatives of
arbitrariry function of ##\Theta## with the aid of ##\tilde{A}=A_t/A; \tilde{B} = B_x/B## in the following way:
$$\partial_t F(\Theta) = \tilde{A} \partial_\Theta F(\Theta), \partial_x F(\Theta) = \tilde{B} \partial_\Theta F(\Theta)$$


My question about this problem is if the definition given for ##\partial_t F(\Theta)## and ##\partial_x F(\Theta)## is true. Because chain rule gives:
$$\partial_t F(\Theta) = \partial_t(\Theta)\partial_\Theta F(\Theta) = BA_t\partial_\Theta F(\Theta) \neq A_t/A\partial_\Theta F(\Theta)$$

Furthermore, when it is substituted into the sine-Gordon equation, I obtain:
$$(A^2B^2+1)\tilde{A}_t-2\tilde{A}^2AB-A^3B^3=(A^2B^2+1)\tilde{B}_t-2AB\tilde{B}^2-AB$$
The LHS should become a function of A only, and RHS of B, but it seems like this is not possible.
 
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These are the quantities I have used:
$$\sin u = \frac{-4(\Theta^3-\Theta)}{(\Theta^2+1)^2}\\
u_{tt} = \tilde{A}_tB\partial_\Theta u +\tilde{A}^2\partial_{\Theta\Theta}u\\
u_{xx} = A\tilde{B}_x\partial_\Theta u +\tilde{B}^2\partial_{\Theta\Theta}u $$
where
$$\partial_\Theta u = \frac{4}{\Theta^2+1}\\
\partial_{\Theta\Theta} u = \frac{-8\Theta}{(\Theta^2+1)^2}$$
 
IanBerkman said:
Transform derivatives of
arbitrariry function of ##\Theta## with the aid of ##\tilde{A}=A_t/A; \tilde{B} = B_x/B## in the following way:
$$\partial_t F(\Theta) = \tilde{A} \partial_\Theta F(\Theta), \partial_x F(\Theta) = \tilde{B} \partial_\Theta F(\Theta)$$


My question about this problem is if the definition given for ##\partial_t F(\Theta)## and ##\partial_x F(\Theta)## is true.
I agree that what is written above is not correct. To see what they should have written, you have shown
$$\partial_t F(\Theta) = \partial_t(\Theta)\partial_\Theta F(\Theta) = BA_t\partial_\Theta F(\Theta)$$
Simplify the last expression by writing it in terms of ##\tilde{A}##, ##\Theta##, and ##F(\Theta)##.
 
IanBerkman said:
These are the quantities I have used:
$$\sin u = \frac{-4(\Theta^3-\Theta)}{(\Theta^2+1)^2}$$
OK
$$u_{tt} = \tilde{A}_tB\partial_\Theta u +\tilde{A}^2\partial_{\Theta\Theta}u\\
u_{xx} = A\tilde{B}_x\partial_\Theta u +\tilde{B}^2\partial_{\Theta\Theta}u $$
I get something different for ##u_{tt}## and ##u_{xx}##.
where
$$\partial_\Theta u = \frac{4}{\Theta^2+1}\\
\partial_{\Theta\Theta} u = \frac{-8\Theta}{(\Theta^2+1)^2}$$
OK
 
TSny said:
I get something different for ##u_{tt}## and ##u_{xx}##.

This could be true since I have used the "wrong" derivatives in the problem.

I have converted it to:
$$u_t=A_t B\partial_\Theta u\\
u_{tt} = \partial_t(A_t B \partial_\Theta u) = \partial_t(A_t B)\partial_\Theta u + A_tB\partial_{\Theta}(\partial_t u)\\
=A_{tt}B\partial_\Theta u + A_t B \partial_{\Theta}(A_t B\partial_\Theta u)= A_{tt}B\partial_\Theta u + (A_t B)^2 \partial_{\Theta\Theta} u$$
 
IanBerkman said:
I have converted it to:
$$u_t=A_t B\partial_\Theta u\\
u_{tt} = \partial_t(A_t B \partial_\Theta u) = \partial_t(A_t B)\partial_\Theta u + A_tB\partial_{\Theta}(\partial_t u)\\
=A_{tt}B\partial_\Theta u + A_t B \partial_{\Theta}(A_t B\partial_\Theta u)= A_{tt}B\partial_\Theta u + (A_t B)^2 \partial_{\Theta\Theta} u$$
I think you will be better off expressing these in terms of ##\tilde{A}##.

For example, take ##u_t=A_t B\partial_\Theta u##. Can you express this in terms of ##\tilde{A}## (without any explicit appearance of ##B##)?
 
That would indeed be ##u_t = \tilde{A}\Theta \partial_\Theta u## and ##u_{tt} = \tilde{A}_t\Theta u_\Theta + 2\tilde{A}^2\Theta u_\Theta + \tilde{A}^2\Theta^2u_{\Theta\Theta}## if I calculated correctly (it is a bit late now and I am a bit sleepy).

This looks a lot more appropriate and I will proceed tomorrow to work out the sine-Gordon equation.
 
IanBerkman said:
That would indeed be ##u_t = \tilde{A}\Theta \partial_\Theta u## and ##u_{tt} = \tilde{A}_t\Theta u_\Theta + 2\tilde{A}^2\Theta u_\Theta + \tilde{A}^2\Theta^2u_{\Theta\Theta}## .
OK, except I'm not getting the factor of 2 in the middle term of the expression for ##u_{tt}##.

This looks a lot more appropriate and I will proceed tomorrow to work out the sine-Gordon equation.
Sounds good.
 
Yes I saw where the mistake came from, I am going to revise everything a bit tomorrow when I am a bit more fresh.
 

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