Brunei's Response to the 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake and Tsunami Disaster

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A powerful earthquake measuring 8.9 to 9.0 struck off the coast of Sumatra, Indonesia, triggering massive tsunamis that devastated coastal areas across several countries, resulting in an estimated death toll of over 12,300, with predictions that it could rise to 30,000. The quake, the strongest in 40 years, affected Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India, Thailand, and other regions, with reports of significant casualties and destruction, particularly in tourist areas during peak vacation season. Many individuals shared personal experiences of fear and loss, including concerns for friends and family in affected areas. Discussions also highlighted the need for international aid and relief efforts, with various organizations mobilizing to provide assistance. The earthquake's geological context was discussed, noting its relation to the Pacific Ring of Fire and the tectonic activity in the region. The community expressed deep sorrow for the victims, particularly children, and emphasized the importance of supporting reliable relief organizations to ensure aid reaches those in need.
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that's exactly how i feel, evo.. infact a couple of friends of mine are planning to collect some of the clothes and send it to other countries where they will atleast accept it, currently i am leaning towards the foolish side in my opinion of these people..
 
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On the other hand, people in the industrial countries (in N America, S America, Europe, Asia, Australia) need to be more culturally sensitive and aware of appropriate clothes for the region.

Another thought, why do these countriesnow suffering from the tsunami only get attention from the West when there is a major crisis.

I have been collecting warm clothes (coats, jackets, pants, shoes, blankets) for folks in Afghanistan - the winters there are harsh, especially in the mountains. However, some people have given me summer clothes, or high-heeled shoes, which are inappropriate - even though they are given with the best or at least good intentions (but I wonder sometimes).

Also, I get jackets with US sports teams or other cultural symbols. In some parts of a country like Afghanistan or Pakistan, that could make someone a target for those who may have sympathies for the Taliban or who are simply hostile to the US.
 
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Astronuc said:
On the other hand, people in the industrial countries (in N America, S America, Europe, Asia, Australia) need to be more culturally sensitive and aware of appropriate clothes for the region.
The agencies accepting clothing stated they wanted warm weather clothing - shorts, shortsleeved shirts, sandals, etc... I may understand the women not being comfortable with some of the donated clothing because of religious belief, but for the men and children, it should have been acceptable from photographs I've seen of their daily wear.
 
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Evo said:
The agencies accepting clothing stated they wanted warm weather clothing - shorts, shortsleeved shirts, sandals, etc...

I may understand the women not being comfortable with some of the donated clothing because of religious belief, but for the men and children, it should have been acceptable from photographs I've seen of their daily wear.

India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Thailand are a quite different situation to Afghanistan. The only point I was trying to make was for people to give some thought to the cultural sensitivities. But you are correct, it should not be a problem from most men and children. Nevertheless, some of the areas hit are the most remote and furthest from modern urbanized areas, so perhaps older traditional customs preclude some Western clothing.

In fact one aid organization said that cash (monetary) would be preferable so that they can buy local clothing and products that would be more acceptable.

I thinks its great the outpouring of aid, and I hope the world (particularly those who have a negative view of the US) notices that the Americans are concerned and caring.
 
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Astronuc said:
Another thought, why do these countriesnow suffering from the tsunami only get attention from the West when there is a major crisis.

Who told you that? FOX TV or CNN? . Whole world is helping victims of Tsunami not the west only.Other nations help as much as they can.
 
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Re: Another thought, why do these countriesnow suffering from the tsunami only get attention from the West when there is a major crisis.


I was thinking openly, which in public is sometimes risky. I was not referring to the aid now, but generally thinking about the ways of the world over the last 40+ years from personal experience.

I am having second thoughts about the question given the context of the thread.

If anyone finds it offensive, I will remove it.
 
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Astronuc said:
India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Thailand are a quite different situation to Afghanistan.
Yes, not just climate, don't many women in Afghanistan still wear the full burka?

The only point I was trying to make was for people to give some thought to the cultural sensitivities.
I would hope that the disaster workers would know what is appropriate to hand out. The donations of clothes taken in, although innapropriate for the above countries could still be used in other countries by these agencies. I would wonder why more sommon sense was not used.

Nevertheless, some of the areas hit are the most remote and furthest from modern urbanized area
One of the saddest things is that some of the small remote islands had some of the most isolated and ancient tribes on earth, they are thought to have been mostly, if not completely wiped out.

so perhaps older traditional customs preclude some Western clothing.
Again, this I see as the fault of the disaster workers, although I know that they are doing their best under extreme conditions.

In fact one aid organization said that cash (monetary) would be preferable so that they can buy local clothing and products that would be more acceptable.
I think the majority of those donating have donated money because it is the easiest way, requires the least effort. I donate clothes and furnishings to a couple of local charities here that do front door pickups regularly. If I had to haul this stuff myself, I would never do it.
 
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I spent a couple of months without a job or a place to live once. If someone was nice enough to give me something I thanked them. If I couldn't use it I found someone who could or I didn't take it at all. Never take something only to throw it away.
 
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klusener said:
that's exactly how i feel, evo.. infact a couple of friends of mine are planning to collect some of the clothes and send it to other countries where they will atleast accept it, currently i am leaning towards the foolish side in my opinion of these people..

Especially when one considers that nearly all US clothing is made in Asia. :biggrin:
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Especially when one considers that nearly all US clothing is made in Asia. :biggrin:

That reminded me of this:
(Its a parody, don't take it seriously please)
http://www.b3ta.com/board/4110029
 
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Some countries have requested that donor countries "quit sending doctors"; they have too many. Sri Lanka's relief people on site are now "flooded with material goods and money". Help is finally getting to the remote areas.

Today they found some people who have been floating in a raft ever since the disaster.

What I can't imagine is how anyone can do the terrible work of recovering and identifying the bodies. What a job! I can't even imagine... What would month, or even a day of that be like?
 
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again, i don't know whether to be surprised or not at the Andaman and Nicobar islands.. our government is not letting any NGOs in there, because some of the most primitive societies in the word live there, and the gov. is afraid that once you let western society in, it is going to ruin the native society, for example, you know as soon as you let those people in, as fast as one can say hello, christian missionaries will be in there trying to convert the people to christianity and the gov. wants to protect the customs of the people... But at the same time, there are thousands of people needing help, of course it is not as if they are being completely denied help, the government itself spends a lot of money helping them, from the Prime Minister Relief Funds, which people from all the world donate to.. but the issue here is that western orgs, like Doctors without Borders are not allowed, i already stated why.. For me, I find this acceptable as long as the people living there are treated and provided with help by our own government, but if I hear any reports that are contrary this, which would mean that the people are suffering due to ignorance, then maybe i would push for other orgs coming in there. But I have not heard anything supporting this, so I have not changed my mind.
 

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