Bubbles What are Bubbles exactly?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of bubbles, specifically focusing on air bubbles in water. Participants explore the reasons behind the spherical shape of bubbles, the effects of pressure, and the role of surface tension. The conversation includes both theoretical and conceptual aspects of bubbles in liquids.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what exactly constitutes a bubble and why it maintains a spherical shape in water.
  • Another participant explains that surface tension creates a membrane at the interface of air and water, which contributes to the bubble's stability and shape.
  • It is noted that as a bubble is compressed, the internal pressure increases, creating a balance between the surface tension and ambient fluid pressure that prevents the bubble from collapsing.
  • Some participants argue that bubbles are not always spherical, especially when they rise through a liquid, leading to elongated shapes.
  • There is a clarification regarding the misunderstanding of the term "blows up within the liquid," with one participant explaining that if a bubble disintegrates, it would result in multiple smaller bubbles rather than a single large one.
  • Discussion includes a historical reference to Donald Glaser's invention of the bubble chamber, inspired by beer bubbles, highlighting the intersection of everyday observations and scientific innovation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the shape of bubbles and the conditions under which they maintain their form. There is no consensus on the exact nature of bubbles, as various perspectives on their behavior and characteristics are presented.

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Some assumptions about the behavior of bubbles under different conditions remain unexamined, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of bubble dynamics in various environments.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying fluid dynamics, surface tension, or anyone curious about the physical properties of bubbles in liquids.

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Hello,

I am wondering what a bubble really is, considering a case of an air bubble in water as an example, what leads to the spherical appearance?

Why it doesn't blows up within the liquid?

thanks in advance.
 
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Have you noticed that you can put a metal needle to float upon the surface of water, although if you push it a bit down, it will inexorably sink to the bottom?

In the interface of two fluids like air and water, there will be an ultra-thin layer of molecules that align themselves into a membrane.

This membrane will be able to exert a force we call "surface tension", which is the "culprit" in why the needle floats. If you add a bit of soap in the water when the needle is floating, it will begin to sink, because the soap destroys the watery membrane the needle rests upon.

As for why the air-filled bubble isn't squeezed to death, consider that as it becomes compressed, the interior pressure will INCREASE well beyond the ambient fluid pressure.

Thus, you will reach an equilibrium, in which the surface tension and ambient fluid pressure will try to collapse the bubble, whereas the interior pressure works in the opposite direction.

The sphericality of the bubble is mainly due to the tiny size of the bubble; the magnitude of the pressure doesn't vary much, either the internal pressure or the external pressure.

Thus, the pressure is equal in all directions, favouring the (almost) spherical shape.
 
Bubbles aren't typically spherical unless they are very small. They aren't stationary - they rise and are therefore elongated as they travel through the water.

I'm not sure what you mean by "blows up with the liquid". Where would it go? A bubble is trapped air. If the bubble disintegrated, the air would still be there, so you'd get a lot of little bubbles instead of one big one. What holds bubbles together (and makes them join and governs their shape) is surface tension.
 
Many thanks for your replies.

I apologize for my wrong sentence, I meant "blows up within the liquid"... which is quite answered by arildno...
 
And whereas bubbles in liquids have one surface soap bubbles have two.Donald Glaser won a Nobel prize for inventing the bubble chamber.It is said that he was inspired by examining the bubbles in his beer.I get inspired by that sort of thing.
 
Dadface said:
he was inspired by examining the bubbles in his beer.I get inspired by that sort of thing.

If that's all that it takes for a Nobel, I should have a dozen of the bloody things by now.
(Unfortunately, most of my beer-induced ideas no longer make sense when I sober up.)
 

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