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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of building an adjustable transformer capable of reducing 110/120 volts down to 1 volt, specifically for applications related to acupuncture and medical experimentation. Participants explore the implications of using such a device, safety concerns, and alternative solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of constructing a transformer for low voltage applications, emphasizing the importance of being able to adjust the voltage to very low levels.
  • Another participant suggests searching for "variac" as a term for variable autotransformers but raises concerns about the safety of using such devices for medical purposes.
  • A participant reveals their lack of formal electrical engineering training and describes their intended use of the device for stimulating acupuncture points and inducing the piezoelectric effect in bones.
  • Some participants recommend low voltage power supplies or multi-output wall warts as safer alternatives, noting that these devices provide isolated outputs from the mains supply.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of applying low voltages to needles inserted in flesh, with emphasis on the need for current limiting and the potential liability involved.
  • One participant clarifies that they do not intend to penetrate the skin and believes they can implement safety features to avoid injury.
  • Another participant warns against the dangers of DIY electronics in this context and suggests purchasing a certified medical device instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the safety and feasibility of the proposed device, with some advocating for caution and others exploring the idea further. No consensus is reached regarding the appropriateness of building such a transformer for the intended application.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the lack of formal training in electrical engineering and medical electronics, which may impact the safety and efficacy of the proposed device. Concerns about liability and the potential risks associated with using electrical devices in medical contexts are also noted.

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Is it possible to build an adjustable transformer that can take 110/120 and dial it all the way down to 1 volt? I'd like to build one if possible to aid in physical development so it's very important to be able to take it as low as possible in the beginning. I'd like it to have 2 electrodes as well.
 
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cheezey8 said:
Is it possible to build an adjustable transformer that can take 110/120 and dial it all the way down to 1 volt? I'd like to build one if possible to aid in physical development so it's very important to be able to take it as low as possible in the beginning. I'd like it to have 2 electrodes as well.

The variable transformer search term is "variac". That will give you info on a variable autotransformer.

However, it sounds like you would like to use this for medical experimentation purposes, which would be totally inappropriate and dangerous if you use a simple variac. Could you please tell us more about the application, and about your background in EE and medical electronics? Are you familiar with the guidelines in UL 544?
 
berkeman said:
The variable transformer search term is "variac". That will give you info on a variable autotransformer.

However, it sounds like you would like to use this for medical experimentation purposes, which would be totally inappropriate and dangerous if you use a simple variac. Could you please tell us more about the application, and about your background in EE and medical electronics? Are you familiar with the guidelines in UL 544?

I have absolutely no background in EE or Medical Electronics. The only electrical training I've had is on the job electrical installation. Nothing major, secondary electrical. If it helps, I'm very mechanical.

Now here's the part where I hope I don't get laughed off the forum.

The application is for stimulating acupuncture points. Running a very small current in the beginning to open chi meridians and also to induce the piezoelectric effect in the bones as well. My training is in medical qigong and taoist qiqong. I hope this helps.
 
You may be looking for low voltage power supplies. These give you safe DC from 0 to 15 volts. There are plenty of these around if you look on Google.

Another device is the multi-output wall wart.
These give you DC in a range of outputs like 4.5 V, 6 V, 7.5 V, 9 V, 12 V etc.
They are intended to run electronic equipment.

At least these devices are isolated from the 120 V supply, but I doubt the safety of applying even these low voltages to needles inserted in flesh. Ouch.
 
Once an electrode breaks the surface of the skin the internal resistance of the body is quite low. Not only do you need to use low voltages but the electrodes also need to be current limited.

Have you considered your potential liability if something were to go wrong? How would a jury react to your statement, "I have absolutely no background in EE or Medical Electronics. The only electrical training I've had is on the job electrical installation. Nothing major, secondary electrical. If it helps, I'm very mechanical."
 
skeptic2 said:
Once an electrode breaks the surface of the skin the internal resistance of the body is quite low. Not only do you need to use low voltages but the electrodes also need to be current limited.

Have you considered your potential liability if something were to go wrong? How would a jury react to your statement, "I have absolutely no background in EE or Medical Electronics. The only electrical training I've had is on the job electrical installation. Nothing major, secondary electrical. If it helps, I'm very mechanical."

I'm not penetrating the skin with it.

A jury won't ever react to that statement because the only mishap would be upon myself. I'm not using this on anyone else. I also know how to apply safety features so that I don't kill myself or permamently injure myself.
 
vk6kro said:
You may be looking for low voltage power supplies. These give you safe DC from 0 to 15 volts. There are plenty of these around if you look on Google.

Another device is the multi-output wall wart.
These give you DC in a range of outputs like 4.5 V, 6 V, 7.5 V, 9 V, 12 V etc.
They are intended to run electronic equipment.

At least these devices are isolated from the 120 V supply, but I doubt the safety of applying even these low voltages to needles inserted in flesh. Ouch.

I'm going to check out both options. Thank you.
Lol I'm not going to issue any voltage to anything in the skin. I just used the term acupuncture for the meridian lines and points.
 
cheezey8 said:
I'm going to check out both options. Thank you.
Lol I'm not going to issue any voltage to anything in the skin. I just used the term acupuncture for the meridian lines and points.

What you are doing is still dangerous, especially since you are not very knowledgeable yet electronics or medical electronics. I would discourage you from trying to make something on your own -- look into buying a unit that carries a UL medical electronics certification.

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