Drawing Electric Arcs at 230 Volts

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Discussion Overview

This discussion revolves around the feasibility of drawing electric arcs at 230 volts, specifically exploring the conditions and requirements for creating such arcs using a simple circuit involving electrodes and an electric kettle. The conversation touches on both theoretical and practical aspects of electric arcs, including the use of direct current (DC) and the necessary circuit components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their attempt to create electric arcs using two iron nails connected in series with an electric kettle, expressing confusion over why they only achieve sparks instead of arcs.
  • Another participant suggests that drawing a good arc is easier with DC at around 220 volts.
  • The original poster speculates that the issue may stem from not having a perfect DC current and expresses interest in designing a coil or capacitor to filter the current.
  • A later reply explicitly refuses to assist with the potentially dangerous experiment, emphasizing safety concerns.
  • The thread concludes with a moderator closing the discussion due to the dangerous nature of the topic and advising against such experiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and safety of drawing electric arcs at 230 volts. While some provide insights into the technical aspects, there is a clear consensus on the dangers involved, leading to the closure of the thread.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to safety and the appropriateness of conducting experiments involving high voltage. There are unresolved questions about the specific circuit design and components needed to successfully create electric arcs.

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Hi everyone :)

I open this discussion because I would like to know how electric arcs are able to be drawn.

Indeed, I have been told that it is perfectly possible to draw electric arcs at very low voltage, by simply putting in contact two electrodes and then drawing them apart. I wanted to try it by my own but it doesn't work and I would like to know why.

Actually, I have made a simple circuit which is consisting of an electric kettle plugged in the main 230 volt. Two electrodes are connected in series of this kettle. Indeed, I use the kettle as power resistance to limit the current. The electrodes are simply two iron nails.

I know this circuit is very dangerous, I do not approve it and I would not recommend to anyone to build it. But well,... it's a very simple circuit and very cheaper to make, so despite the risks I think it's pretty good way to make some tests. Anyway, I am very awareness of the risks and I am very careful.

So, the reason of this topic is simple : it doesn't work, I get only some sparks but nothing which looks like to an electric arc. Futhermore, I saw several videos where people claimed that this is perfectly possible to draw electric arcs at the main voltage (230 volts) :







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTDhKjJJh-s

Some of them say that I need to use a DC current, so I bought and wired a diodes bridge to rectify the signal, but I have the same result as before.
I don't understand how they do, but apparently it's possible. So the question is, what's wrong with my circuit ? If somebody have the answer, I'm more than interested! :)

Thanks in advance for your help :)

Postscript: sorry if my english is not perfect, actually I'm french
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but I will try to do my best!
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My goodness that looks dangerous.

It's easier to draw a good arc at ~220 volts with DC.
 
Thanks for your reply nsaspook 🙂 yes this is exactly what I am looking for but like I said it didn't work with my circuit, even if I use the diodes bridge. I suppose that's because I don't have a perfect DC current, it needs to be filtered. Please, could you tell me how can I design a coil or a capacitor in that purpose ?
 
Quentief said:
Thanks for your reply nsaspook 🙂 yes this is exactly what I am looking for but like I said it didn't work with my circuit, even if I use the diodes bridge. I suppose that's because I don't have a perfect DC current, it needs to be filtered. Please, could you tell me how can I design a coil or a capacitor in that purpose ?

Sorry, NO! I can't help you with this potentially dangerous experiment.
 
Thread closed. PF does not allow dangerous topics.

@Quentief , Please stop these dangerous experiements before you or someone else gets hurt. You can find plenty of videos on Youtube that show similar experiments carried out in safer laboratory conditions. Those videos can satisfy your curiosity.

@nsaspook and all other members, please note that you do us a disservice when you respond to topics like this rather than report them.
 
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