Build WW2 Planes: Is It Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and legality of building or owning World War II aircraft, particularly focusing on specific models like the F4U Corsair and P-51 Mustang. Participants explore various aspects including regulations, costs, and personal experiences related to owning or flying these historical planes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire to own or fly WWII aircraft, particularly the F4U Corsair, and discuss the appeal of such planes.
  • There are claims that owning replicas of WWII aircraft is possible as long as they do not have functional weapons, with some participants mentioning the use of fake weaponry.
  • Participants share anecdotes about owning or flying various WWII aircraft, including the P-51 and Spitfire, and discuss the costs associated with acquiring or building these planes.
  • Some participants question the legality of owning modern military aircraft like the F-18, suggesting that government restrictions may apply.
  • There is mention of the potential costs involved in restoring or building a WWII aircraft, with estimates ranging from hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.
  • Participants discuss the availability of parts and plans for building replicas, with some expressing confidence that original blueprints still exist.
  • There are references to specific aircraft restoration shops and the historical context of aircraft prices in the past.
  • One participant raises a question about the structural integrity and longevity of wooden aircraft like the DeHaviland Mosquito.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the absurdity of some aircraft prices and the challenges of finding specific models.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that owning replicas of WWII aircraft is feasible under certain conditions, but there is disagreement regarding the legality and practicality of owning modern military aircraft. The discussion remains unresolved regarding specific costs and the availability of parts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the exact legal definitions and restrictions surrounding aircraft ownership, as well as the costs associated with building or restoring specific models. There are also references to anecdotal experiences that may not reflect broader trends.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in aviation, particularly historical aircraft enthusiasts, collectors, and those considering the purchase or restoration of WWII planes may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
The P-38 was restored and flown. There was a show on the discovery channel about the first flight.

http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl-continued.htm

A fantastic resource for this area is the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum. Granted, they do slant towards the RCAF and the RAF, but their collection is astounding. They have the only flying Lancaster as far as I know. They also have a Spitfire.

http://www.warplane.com/pages/aircraft.html
 
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  • #32
FredGarvin said:
You can get surplus items all day long but they have to go through the red tape and be "released" from government control.
Okay, I don't know what the procedure was, but that buddy who drove the Spit had a friend outside of the club who owned and flew an F-4C PII.
You aren't taking into account the international arms dealers either. In South America and most of Africa, you can buy anything that you can afford including Tornados, Jaguars, F-16's, SAM 7's... you name it. Bringing them home might not be that easy. Vampire jets were a dime a dozen in Argentina a couple of decades back, and F-5's (one of my favourites) are popular everywhere.

FredGarvin said:
They are either privately owned or they use RC models.
Also, some are redressed common planes. A family a few miles from here owns 5 Harvards that they rent out. Any full-scale Japanese Zero that you see in a movie is one of those. They're very hard to tell from the real thing.

Astronuc said:
Sorry, but he sounds like a nut.
Well... he did marry Evo... :-p



I shouldn't scoff, though. I'm trying very hard to be her next ex-husband. :biggrin:

Astronuc said:
Re: Spitfires

According to http://www.warbirdalley.com/spit.htm, there are still ~50 Spitfires in air-worthy condition. I don't know the status of all though.
Maybe it was 2 in North America... I'm easily confused.

Astronuc said:
It was probably the only one with a sufficiently strong frame to do that.
Believe it or not, the Ju-52—which has to be the butt-ugliest thing ever designed with wings on it—had no airframe redline. It had nowhere near the power needed for Mach-busting, but still... :bugeye:

Astronuc said:
The literature also said that a P-47 flew through a brick wall with the implication that the pilot walked away and the fuselage was intact.
That doesn't speak too highly of the pilot; most try to avoid that.

Astronuc said:
I don't think a Spitfire was strong enough to withstand the forces.
Wouldn't need to. British pilots fly through air.

FredGarvin said:
A fantastic resource for this area is the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum.
There's a very nice museum in Hangar 10 at Calgary International as well.

Thanks both for the links. I don't have time to check them now, but I definitely will later.
 
  • #33
Danger said:
Okay, I don't know what the procedure was, but that buddy who drove the Spit had a friend outside of the club who owned and flew an F-4C PII.
You aren't taking into account the international arms dealers either. In South America and most of Africa, you can buy anything that you can afford including Tornados, Jaguars, F-16's, SAM 7's... you name it. Bringing them home might not be that easy. Vampire jets were a dime a dozen in Argentina a couple of decades back, and F-5's (one of my favourites) are popular everywhere.
No one can vouch for foreign countries. However, in the case of the aircraft mentioned before, there are not that many countries that operate them. There's a vampire sitting on the ramp right across from our manufacturing plant. It was bought from the Swedes.

Danger said:
Also, some are redressed common planes. A family a few miles from here owns 5 Harvards that they rent out. Any full-scale Japanese Zero that you see in a movie is one of those. They're very hard to tell from the real thing.
Now you're really showing your Canadian side! Those are AT-6's for us yanks.
 

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