Building a Newspaper Boat for Physics Class

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing and constructing a boat made entirely from newspaper, masking tape, and shellac for a physics class project. Participants explore various design ideas, construction techniques, and potential challenges related to stability and propulsion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using chicken wire as a mold for shaping the newspaper, expressing concern about the potential for ripping when weight is applied.
  • Another participant supports the use of chicken wire, stating it should prevent ripping and that shellac will waterproof the paper.
  • A different approach is proposed, recommending to create a shell by wrapping wet newspaper around an upside-down kayak and using duct tape for support.
  • Questions arise about the rules regarding the use of chicken wire and how the boat will be propelled, with one participant suggesting using rolled-up newspaper as oars.
  • Concerns about stability are raised, with inquiries about how to prevent the kayak from rolling over and whether any part of the hull will be sealed.
  • One participant shares an update about shifting from a kayak shape to a square shape after initial prototypes failed, considering interlacing rolled-up newspaper for strength.
  • Another participant argues that rolling up newspaper won't enhance strength and suggests using epoxy as a stronger binding agent instead of shellac.
  • A surfboard-like design is proposed as an alternative, but it is noted that the rules prohibit surfboard boats.
  • Encouragement is offered by a participant who references historical examples of boats made from paper and varnish, indicating that such constructions are feasible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of design ideas and concerns, with no consensus reached on the best approach or materials. Multiple competing views remain regarding construction techniques and stability considerations.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of using newspaper as a material, the importance of binding agents, and the implications of design choices on stability and propulsion. Specific rules about the project, such as prohibiting surfboard designs, are also noted.

Who May Find This Useful

Students engaged in similar physics projects, educators looking for creative project ideas, and individuals interested in DIY boat construction techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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My physics teacher gave us kind of a cool end of the year project: To construct a boat made entirely out of newspaper, masking tape, and shellack (I think this is the proper spelling). The boat will then have to go from end to end in a pool and the first person who does so wins.

My idea is basically to take chicken wire and bend it into the shape of a kayak, then layering the newspaper sheet by sheet using shellack as a bonding agent. My main concern will be that when the person sits in the boat, the newspaper will rip!

Any ideas on alternate designs or suggestions on how to improve my present design? Any advice is much appreciated! Thanks.
 
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It sounds like a good design to me. The wire should prevent ripping, and the shellac will make the paper water-proof.
 
Yep! Don't take it upon yourself to design a hull, etc. Borrow a nice kayak, flip it upside-down and coat the bottom with Ivory bar soap. Wrap the bottom with wet newspaper, and let it dry. Coat with shellac and repeat until you have a nice stiff shell. Pull off the shell (your boat) and use the duct tape to keep the sides of the shell supported and aligned (imagine a skeletal "deck" of duct tape) and you should be in pretty good shape.
 
hamburgler said:
To construct a boat made entirely out of newspaper, masking tape, and shellack (I think this is the proper spelling). The boat will then have to go from end to end in a pool and the first person who does so wins.

My idea is basically to take chicken wire …

But are you allowed to use chicken wire?

And how does the teacher expect you to propel the boat? :confused:
 
tiny-tim said:
But are you allowed to use chicken wire?

And how does the teacher expect you to propel the boat? :confused:



I'm going to use the chicken wire as a mold to shape the newspaper and will be removed after the newspaper has dried.

We have to propel it by our hands! I really don't know how it's going to work. I was thinking of making oars out of rolled up newspaper, but haha I don't know how well that would work...
 
hamburgler said:
… the shape of a kayak …

Hi hamburgler! :smile:

A few thoughts … :rolleyes:

How are you going to make it stable? :smile:

You have to sit up in a kayak … do you know what stops a kayak from rolling over (and can you right it without a paddle)? :redface:

Will any part of the hull be sealed?

Longer is faster, but less manoeuvrable.

Narrower is faster, but less stable.

A round hull has better secondary stability.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayak#Design_of_traditional_style_kayaks for some tips. :smile:

And …
:smile: … can you swim … ? :smile:
 
Update:

I did some prototypes with the kayak shape and they epically failed, so now I am thinking of a square shape.

Also, I was thinking about interlacing rolled up newspaper as a strong base for the boat. I'm really hoping this will work because it is during in a little over a week!
 
Rolling up newspaper won't make it any stronger, since newsprint is essentially fine ground-wood with little or no long fiber in it. In this case the binding has to come from the shellac or other binding agent that you use. If you are allowed to use epoxy to bond the newspaper, that would be a stronger (though more expensive) option.
 
What about a surfboard like shape that you lie down on? This would be easy to paddle across the pool with, and wouldn't require as much strength as a conventional "boat".
 
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turbo-1 said:
Rolling up newspaper won't make it any stronger, since newsprint is essentially fine ground-wood with little or no long fiber in it. In this case the binding has to come from the shellac or other binding agent that you use. If you are allowed to use epoxy to bond the newspaper, that would be a stronger (though more expensive) option.

I figured I could use the masking tape to hold the rolls together...?
 
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Jeff Reid said:
What about a surfboard like shape that you lie down on? This would be easy to paddle across the pool with, and wouldn't require as much strength as a conventional "boat".

Haha, unfortunately the rules specifically state no surfboard boats :(
 
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Hi Hamburgler; Saw your plight and would like to encourage your efforts. I've read that before the advent of fiberglass there were several rowing shells made from paper and varnish. I've also recently read about a dory made from newspaper
http://www.flickr.com/photos/n2self/216150564/in/set-72157594238234602/
So it looks like it's definitely possible.
Good luck!
 

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