Bullet and a Block: Solve the Problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the interaction between a bullet and a block, specifically focusing on the conservation of momentum and energy transfer through a spring mechanism. Participants are exploring the dynamics of the collision and the subsequent motion of the block.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss equating kinetic energy and potential energy in the context of the block and spring system. There are attempts to apply conservation of momentum to determine the final velocities of both the bullet and the block. Some participants question the setup of the momentum equation and clarify the definitions of variables involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the correct application of conservation laws. There is an acknowledgment of the need to reassess the momentum equation used in the problem. Multiple interpretations of the energy transfer and momentum conservation are being explored, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the bullet passes through the block before significant motion occurs, which influences the energy calculations. There is a focus on ensuring clarity regarding the definitions of mass and velocity in the equations being used.

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Okay... i equated .5kx^2 and .5mv^2 for the block, and got the velocity, v. Then i used mv=MV (conservation of momentum) to find the final velocity of the bullet as it emerges out of the block. But that is not the correct answer.
Help me.
 
directdelta said:
Okay... i equated .5kx^2 and .5mv^2 for the block, and got the velocity, v. Then i used mv=MV (conservation of momentum) to find the final velocity of the bullet as it emerges out of the block. But that is not the correct answer.
Help me.
Let's be clear on M vs m and V vs v. Your energy calculation involves the spring and the block, so i assume m is mass of block and v is its velocity when the spring starts to compress. The momentum conservation problem can be assumed complete before the spring compreses.

Look at the momentum problem again. You have a bullet moving with known velocity toward a stationary block. After the collision you know the velocity (from the energy calculation) of the block and you need the final velocity of the bullet. Your momentum equation does not correspond to this situation. See if you can fix it.
 
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directdelta said:
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-rkirjZg1crSQi6eQnmqL4njg_w--?cq=1

Please try to solve this problem. Thanks.
Interesting problem.

Since the bullet is traveling at 500 m/sec, it passes through the block before the block really begins to move. So we can treat this as if the block acquires an instantaneous kinetic energy which is then transferred into the spring. We know what the energy transferred to the block is [itex]E = kx^2/2[/itex] where v0 is the speed of the block after collision. So you can work out the speed of the block after the bullet passes through. I think that is what you have done.

Since momentum has to be conserved,

[tex]mv_{f-bullet} + Mv_{block} = mv_{i-bullet}[/tex]

That may be where you are having some difficulty.

AM
 
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Thank You. I finally solved it. siggghhhh
 

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