Buy Matlab for Your Engineering Studies

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the availability and acquisition of Matlab for engineering studies, particularly for students who require it for homework. Participants explore alternatives to Matlab, including free software options, while debating the capabilities and limitations of these alternatives compared to Matlab.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in purchasing Matlab and seeks guidance on obtaining it.
  • Another participant claims that student versions of Matlab are no longer available for purchase, suggesting that students use school lab computers instead.
  • A participant questions the claim about the unavailability of student versions, referencing a link to MathWorks' website.
  • Some participants propose free alternatives like Octave and Scilab, noting potential compatibility issues with homework assignments.
  • Concerns are raised about the capabilities of Octave and Scilab compared to Matlab, with one participant arguing that they lack the power needed for extensive scientific calculations.
  • Another participant counters that the main advantage of Matlab lies in its extensive collection of Toolboxes, which can be replicated with custom scripts if one has the necessary skills.
  • There is a discussion about the built-in C-compiler in Matlab that enhances performance, as well as its superior data visualization tools compared to alternatives.
  • Some participants acknowledge Matlab's advantages but suggest that Scilab may be a viable alternative for those unable to afford it, while also noting the influence of licensing on software choice.
  • One participant mentions that Octave's code is compatible with Matlab for simple tasks, recommending it as a temporary solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of student versions of Matlab or the comparative effectiveness of Matlab versus its alternatives. Multiple competing views on the capabilities of Octave and Scilab versus Matlab remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the capabilities of Matlab, Octave, and Scilab, highlighting assumptions about their functionalities and the context in which they are used. There are unresolved questions regarding the current status of student versions of Matlab and the specific requirements of homework assignments.

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I am a part-time online graduate engineering student, and am required to use Matlab for some of my homeworks but do not know where I can purchase or obtain it.
 
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There are no longer student versions of MATLAB that students can purchase. Most schools will have computers in their labs with Matlab loaded onto them that you can use. Since that probably won't work for you, I suggest you read my PM.
 
Scilab is another option. whether it would be compatible with the homework assignments is another story.
 
Scilab and Octave have no where near the power that MATLAB does. They are just simple CAS/matrix solvers and are just about worthless for any extensive scientific calculations.
 
i don't think that's anywhere close to being true, Topher925. i used MATLAB quite a bit several years ago, and the main benefit to MATLAB is the large collection of Toolboxes that you can buy at extra expense to perform the operations you want. but those Toolboxes were just scripts that you could write yourself if you knew what you were doing. not sure if they still issue Toolboxes as scripts or if they're compiled libraries now for the speed benefit. but what you get out of it is what you put into it.
 
One could argue that Matlab is "worthless" for real extensive scientific calculations as well.
 
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minger said:
One could argue that Matlab is "worthless" for real extensive scientific calculations as well.

And how could one support that argument? Matlab has a built in C-compiler which can compile MATLAB code into C code for increased speed. Matlab's power doesn't just come from its ability to compute numbers, but its tools and abilities to show that data as well. AFAIK, Octave of Scilab don't have animation tools or matlab's rendering capabilities.

ProtonSoup, I think they have gone a step above just script files for toolboxes. For example, I don't believe the symbolic or polynomial toolboxes are just script files but actual add-ons that need to be installed. Thats the way it is on my computer anyway.
 
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well, I'm not going to deny that MATLAB has the better product. they should, they've got a staff of people devoted to making it so. but if you can't afford or justify purchasing it, i think Scilab is the next best thing out there. Octave is also popular, but IMO a lot of that has to do with it being under a GNU license. even though Scilab is available for free use, it's license is not "free enough" for some of the die-hard open source fans. so they will choose a less capable product simply on principle.
 
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Since the Octave code, for simple homework calculations, is the same as Matlab, I'd just download Octave for the time being. It will in 99% of the cases mean that you can run the scripts also at the school - or if your online teachers will want to see and run the script, it should work.

If you ever need to do anything other than make simple .m scripts, then consider another program, or buying Matlab.
 

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