Buying or making an electret

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In summary: I am not sure if this is true or not, but it seems to be the case. You can buy them at Radio Shack. Price $3.79.
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I am interested in buying or making an electret - preferably the oriented dipole version - not the probably more common real or surface charge version. I have read about the old procedure of making an electret from a mixture of beeswax, carnuba wax and rosin, but I think that by now there must be newer materials and procedures that produce better and longer-lasting electrets. Any thoughts? Thanks
 
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You can buy them at Radio Shack. Price $3.79.


Electret Microphone Element with Leads
Model: 270-092 | Catalog #: 270-092

This omnidirectional microphone element has a wide 30-15,000Hz frequency response. Requires 4-10VDC.

Probably cheaper ones around if you go hunting.

These have an amplifier built into them and you need to add a load resistor of about 4.7K.
 
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Thanks for the tip on the Radio Shack electret microphones. So I bought two microphones and removed their electret diaphragms, but I was disappointed to find they did not exhibit any noticeable attraction or repulsion to each other or to anything. Perhaps because the opposite sides of the diaphragm might be charged to only a few hundred volts ( adequate for microphone operation but inadequate for electrostatic demonstrations, which usually involve thousands of volts). To measure such a static-charge voltage I would need a special meter, which I don't have.
Since electrets are interesting, I thought I could easily buy them from science supply houses- but no such luck. I have read that electrets are used in microphones, air filters, copy machines and static cling films (for windows, stickers, etc.). Thus, I am thinking about buying some static cling stickers since they might be electrets. But I can't find any source that states definitely that static cling film is an electret, only that the film is made from PVC. And I would like to know which type of electret- ionic or oriented dipole. And what about the old child's toy, Colorforms (vinyl static cling stickers)? Are they electrets?
Thoughts? Thanks
 
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Maybe we are talking about different things.

Electret microphones only ever work on small voltages, up to 10 Volts, maybe.
They are just condenser microphones with an amplifier attached.

I don't see why they would attract each other. They are just microphones and have no magnets in them and not enough electric charge to attract anything.
 
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Lewis R said:
I am interested in buying or making an electret - preferably the oriented dipole version - not the probably more common real or surface charge version. I have read about the old procedure of making an electret from a mixture of beeswax, carnuba wax and rosin, but I think that by now there must be newer materials and procedures that produce better and longer-lasting electrets. Any thoughts? Thanks

It appears you're not alone. I have searched for some time to find a supplier, and they simply do not exist on the web. As I mentioned to someone else on the forum, I think electric manufacturers are not interested in selling to individuals, but only to other manufacturers.
 
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1. What is an electret?

An electret is a type of material that has a permanent electrical charge. This charge is created through a process called polarization, where the material is exposed to an electric field and then cooled to retain the charge.

2. What is the difference between buying and making an electret?

The main difference between buying and making an electret is the level of control over the properties of the material. Buying an electret means you are purchasing a pre-made material with set properties, while making an electret allows you to customize the charge and other characteristics of the material.

3. How do I make an electret?

To make an electret, you will need a material that can hold a permanent charge, such as certain types of plastic or ceramic. The material is then exposed to an electric field and heated, followed by a cooling process to retain the charge. The exact process may vary depending on the material and desired properties.

4. What are the common uses for electrets?

Electrets have a wide range of applications, including in microphones, loudspeakers, air filters, and electrostatic generators. They are also commonly used in medical equipment, such as defibrillators and pacemakers.

5. Are there any safety precautions when working with electrets?

Yes, it is important to follow proper safety precautions when working with electrets, as they can generate high levels of static electricity. This may include using gloves and protective gear, as well as grounding tools and equipment to prevent electric shock.

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