C-parity π+ π- π0: Is (-1)^L (+1) Correct?

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The discussion centers on the C-parity of the three-pion system π+ π- π0, particularly exploring whether it can be expressed as (-1)^L (+1) and how this relates to the angular momentum of the subsystem. The scope includes theoretical considerations of quantum numbers and potential implications for CP violation in particle decays.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the C-parity of π+ π- is simply (-1)^L, where L is the angular momentum quantum number for the system.
  • Others argue that the C-parity of the three-pion system π+ π- π0 is given by (-1)(-1)^(L), suggesting a relationship between the C-parity of two and three pions.
  • A later reply questions how to directly calculate the C eigenvalue for the three-pion system.
  • One participant explains that the C is a multiplicative quantum number, indicating that the total C eigenvalue can be derived from the C eigenvalues of individual pions and their angular momentum contributions.
  • There is mention of needing to establish C and P eigenvalues for basic particles to understand those of pions through physical processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the C-parity of the three-pion system, with no consensus reached on the correct expression or calculation method. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications for CP violation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the angular momentum contributions and the definitions of C and P eigenvalues for individual particles, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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C-parity of π+ π- π0 compared to π+ π-
The C-parity of π+ π- alone is simply (-1)^L, where L is the angular momentum quantum number for the system. But then what is C-parity of π+ π- π0? Is it simply (-1)^L (+1), where L is the angular momentum quantum number for the π+ π- subsystem (which isn't necessarily the angular momentum of the whole three pion system)?
 
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π+ π- π0's CP is(-1)(-1)^(L). So, two pions and three pions have opposite CP eigenvalues. Therefore, observation of both K_{0 L} to two pions and three pions decays is clue of CP violation.
 
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SBoh said:
π+ π- π0's CP is(-1)(-1)^(L). So, two pions and three pions have opposite CP eigenvalues. Therefore, observation of both K_{0 L} to two pions and three pions decays is clue of CP violation.
This implies C = +1 which seems right. But how do you calculate C eigenvalue directly?
 
C is multiplicative quantum number. So, once you know C of a single pion, you just need to perform C^n for n pions system. It is same for P. So, C(pion)^n P(pion)^n (-1)^L is total CP eigenvalue.
If you ask how we can know C or P eigenvalue of single particle such as pion, I would answer that we need to set C and P eigenvalues to several basic particles such as proton and electron. Then, we can study C and P quantum number of other particles (i.e. pions) using physical process such as pion + deutron to two neutrons.
 
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