Calc iii question/analytic geometry

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To prove that vector OA + OB + OC is perpendicular to plane ABC in a regular tetrahedron, it's essential to correctly define the vertices and their corresponding vectors. The initial attempt to center the tetrahedron at the origin led to confusion due to incorrect assumptions about the lengths of the sides. A better approach is to generalize the problem by using a variable side length, allowing for a consistent proof across all regular tetrahedra. By calculating the cross product of vectors AB and AC and ensuring the dot product with OA + OB + OC equals zero, the perpendicularity can be established. This method provides a clearer path to the solution and confirms the relationship holds for any regular tetrahedron.
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Given vertices of regular tetrahedron OABC, prove that vector OA + OB + OC is perpendicular to plane ABC...

I've been racking my brain on this one, can't figure it out... would appreciate some help

I thought I'd center it on the origin:
(0, 0, 0)
(1, 0, 0)
(0, 1, 0)
(0, 0, 1)

A + B + C = (1, 0, 0) + (0, 1, 0) +(0, 0, 1) = (1, 1, 1)
(not sure if that's right - seems like it would be outside the tetrahedron)

No idea where to go from there.
 
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The problem here is that your tetrahedron isn't regular. Consider triangle OAB. Two of the sides have length 1, but the hypoenuse has length \sqrt{2}. You'll have to choose different vectors.
 
Is there an easier way to do it? Showing that this is true for one regular tetrahedron doesn't necessarily/formally mean it holds for all of them, does it?

Also, even when I switch coordinates, it doesn't work. For example, a regular tetrahedron (... at least wikipedia says this one is regular)

O (1, 1, 1)
A (-1, -1, 1)
B (-1, 1, -1)
C (1, -1, -1)

vector OA = A - O = (-2, -2, 0)
Similarly, vector OB = (-2, 0, -2)
OC = (0, -2, -2)

AB = (0, 2, -2)
AC = (2, 0, -2)

AB x AC = (-4, -4, -4)
OA + OB + OC = (-4, -4, -4)

And when you take the dot product of those it should be 0 (if they are perpendicular, as they are supposed to be)... but it isn't 0

What's wrong? Also, again is showing it holds for one regular tetrahedron sufficient?
 
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jaejoon89 said:
Is there an easier way to do it?

If there is, I don't see it.

Showing that this is true for one regular tetrahedron doesn't necessarily/formally mean it holds for all of them, does it?

No, but you're trying to do hear is easily generalized. Instead of trying to come up with a tetrahedron whose sides are of unit length just let the length be some variable, say a. Then *presto* you're working with any possible regular tetrahedron.
 
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