Calculate Ip: 9V, 120V Transformer Equation

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The discussion revolves around a transformer problem involving a device operating at 9V connected to a 120V power supply. Participants are tasked with calculating the primary current (Ip) using the transformer equation VpIp = VsIs, where Vp and Vs are the primary and secondary voltages, respectively.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between primary and secondary power, questioning how to determine the secondary current (Is) given the load resistance. There are discussions about the correct identification of primary and secondary sides of the transformer.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on equating input and output powers to find the primary current. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the problem setup, and some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the provided answers.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential errors in the answers provided, and participants are encouraged to verify the problem's transcription. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding power balance in transformer circuits.

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Homework Statement
An electrical device operates on 9V and has a resistance of 21 ohm. It is connected to a power supply of 120 V output through a transformer. The current in the primary of the transformer is? (a) 0.032 A, (b) Cannot be determined from the information supplied, (c) 0.23 A, (d) 2.32 A
Relevant Equations
Primary power = Secondary power
VpIp = VsIs
Okay, so according to the transformer equation, VpIp = VsIs
In this question, I know I have to calculate Ip.
I think given, Vp = 9V, Vs = 120 V
Now I don't know what to use in the value of Is.
Please help!
The answer is 2.32 A.
 
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tanaygupta2000 said:
Homework Statement:: An electrical device operates on 9V and has a resistance of 21 ohm. It is connected to a power supply of 120 V output through a transformer. The current in the primary of the transformer is? (a) 0.032 A, (b) Cannot be determined from the information supplied, (c) 0.23 A, (d) 2.32 A
Relevant Equations:: Primary power = Secondary power
VpIp = VsIs

Okay, so according to the transformer equation, VpIp = VsIs
In this question, I know I have to calculate Ip.
I think given, Vp = 9V, Vs = 120 V
Now I don't know what to use in the value of Is.
Please help!

The answer is 2.32 A.
The more traditional direction for such a power transformer is to call the 120Vrms input the Primary side, and the 9V output the secondary side.

You have the secondary/output power determined by the 9V output and 21 Ohm load resistance. Equating input and output powers (for a first approximation which does not include losses in the transformer) will let you calculate the input current at 120Vrms to generate that power.

tanaygupta2000 said:
The answer is 2.32 A.
That looks very wrong to me. Can you post an image of the problem to be sure that you have transcribed it correctly? Thanks.
 
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berkeman said:
The more traditional direction for such a power transformer is to call the 120Vrms input the Primary side, and the 9V output the secondary side.

You have the secondary/output power determined by the 9V output and 21 Ohm load resistance. Equating input and output powers (for a first approximation which does not include losses in the transformer) will let you calculate the input current at 120Vrms to generate that power.That looks very wrong to me. Can you post an image of the problem to be sure that you have transcribed it correctly? Thanks.
Sure sir
 

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Please note sir that these answers are not always correct, as I found many wrong.
 
berkeman said:
You have the secondary/output power determined by the 9V output and 21 Ohm load resistance. Equating input and output powers (for a first approximation which does not include losses in the transformer) will let you calculate the input current at 120Vrms to generate that power.
@tanaygupta2000, I think this is what the problem is all about. Power balance.
If you follow this procedure, your answer will match one of the options (not d of course ;))
 
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Option - (a)
 
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tanaygupta2000 said:
Option - (a)
Yes.
 
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tanaygupta2000 said:
Homework Statement:: An electrical device operates on 9V and has a resistance of 21 ohm. It is connected to a power supply of 120 V output through a transformer. The current in the primary of the transformer is? (a) 0.032 A, (b) Cannot be determined from the information supplied, (c) 0.23 A, (d) 2.32 A
Relevant Equations:: Primary power = Secondary power
VpIp = VsIs

Okay, so according to the transformer equation, VpIp = VsIs
In this question, I know I have to calculate Ip.
I think given, Vp = 9V, Vs = 120 V
Now I don't know what to use in the value of Is.
Please help!
The answer is 2.32 A.
Secondary power = Vs^2/Rs = 9×9/21 = 3.86W
Primary power = Vp×Ip = 120I
VpIp = VsIs
I = 3.86/120 = 0.032A
 
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Vince Kamboj said:
Secondary power = Vs^2/Rs = 9×9/21 = 3.86W
Primary power = Vp×Ip = 120I
VpIp = VsIs
I = 3.86/120 = 0.032A
Welcome to PF, Vince. Since the OP has solved the problem a number of months ago, it is okay to post your solution to the problem. In general, though, in the schoolwork forums it is not allowed to post solutions to schoolwork/homework problems until after the OP has solved the problem correctly. The student must do the bulk of the work here at PF.

Again, Welcome to PF. :smile:
 
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